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    I'm going to agree here with Matthew,<br>
    I think that the process we are going through, given it's narrow
    focus should provide reassurance.<br>
    <br>
    Graeme<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/2015 6:09 PM, Matthew Shears
      wrote:<br>
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      Christopher<br>
      <br>
      I'm afraid that I continue to have great difficulty understanding
      why you think that what we are working on in DT-L is misplaced,
      naive or de-stabilizing.  <br>
      <br>
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<![endif]--> (attached) - text that is focused on ensuring that there is
      business continuity for the IANA functions should there be a need
      for moving (transitioning) the IANA functions to another
      contractor.  We are not creating some new effort or activity -
      rather we are looking at something the current contract explicitly
      requires: "<span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">The
        current IANA Functions contract describes a number of functions,
        systems,<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span></span><span
        style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"> processes and
        documents that would need to be transitioned from ICANN to a<span
          style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span></span><span
        style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"> successor
        organization, should the Government select a successor
        contractor to<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span></span><span
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        New&quot;;
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        EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">perform

        the IANA Functions."<br>
        <br>
        We are not trying to anticipate that such a transition would or
        should occur.  We are trying to ensure that were such a
        transition to occur there is - based on the existing contract
        requirement - a plan that allows for and encourages the
        continuity of the IANA functions.  This is a far cry from
        de-stabilizing - indeed the purpose of this plan (as is clear in
        section C.7 of the current contract) is the opposite.<br>
        <br>
        Thanks.<br>
        <br>
        Matthew </span><br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/2015 10:21 PM, CW Lists wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote
        cite="mid:6AC06C2A-D0A4-44B5-91D3-0F1ADDC8C255@christopherwilkinson.eu"
        type="cite">
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        <base href="x-msg://18/">In which case the 'remit' and the DT-L
        interpretation of it, is at best quite naive.
        <div>I maintain my postion. No. Such texts are at worst,
          deliberately de-stabilising.</div>
        <div><br>
          <div>CW</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
            <div>
              <div>On 08 Apr 2015, at 22:41, Allan MacGillivray &lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>&gt;

                wrote:</div>
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              <blockquote type="cite">
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                  text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
                  word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " lang="EN-CA">
                  <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; ">
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                        style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Christopher

                        – the remit of DT L is limited to the design of
                        the actual transition plan, not the processes or
                        circumstances under which a decision to effect
                        such a transition might be undertaken.   On our
                        call today, the DT L team acknowledged that
                        given the time constraints that we are operating
                        under, what we would produce might only really
                        be seen to be a framework for such a transition
                        plan and that it would need to be further
                        elaborated in the future.  The recommendation
                        that you refer to ( 1., below) implicitly
                        acknowledges  this and goes on to recommend a
                        deadline for completing such a detailed plan.
                         The 24 months I chose was somewhat arbitrary,
                        and was intended to recognize that one year
                        might be too short, given all that will be going
                        on.  If you have another suggestion, it would be
                        welcomed; the recommendations that I put out are
                        intended to seek comments.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                        style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                        style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                        style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                        style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Allan<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                        style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border-style: solid none none;
                        border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color:
                        rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; ">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span
                              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                              Tahoma, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                            style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
                            sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>CW
                            Lists [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              href="mailto:lists@">mailto:lists@</a><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://christopherwilkinson.eu"
                              style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline; ">christopherwilkinson.eu</a>]<span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                            <b>Sent:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>April-08-15

                            11:04 AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Allan

                            MacGillivray<br>
                            <b>Cc:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:dt4@icann.org" style="color:
                              purple; text-decoration: underline; ">dt4@icann.org</a>;
                            Jonathan Robinson; Lise Fuhr<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                            [DTL] Notes from DT-L Call on 8 April at
                            13:00 UTC<br>
                            <b>Importance:</b><span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>High<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">So,
                      on that basis you would give two years, only, for
                      any interested parties to complain and make as
                      much trouble as they like to force the issue of a
                      'transition'.<o:p></o:p></div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">To

                        who? I can see the candidates lining up. Please
                        bear in mind that there is a well established
                        regulatory principle that control over critical
                        infrastructure should not revert to dominant
                        operators.<o:p></o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I
                        wish to be recorded as opposing the language
                        that DT-L is proposing.<o:p></o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">CW<o:p></o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                            Roman', serif; ">On 08 Apr 2015, at 16:18,
                            Allan MacGillivray &lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca"
                              style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline; ">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>&gt;

                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
                        </div>
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>
                          <br>
                          <o:p></o:p></div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                              Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Further to
                                our call, this is what I propose for
                                recommendations for DTL:</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                              Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                            New Roman', serif; line-height: 13.5pt; "><span
                              style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">DT-L
                              Recommendations</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                            New Roman', serif; line-height: 13.5pt; "><span
                              style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">That:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            10pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent:
                            -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;
                              font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><span>1.<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
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                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; ">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">the transition
                              framework outlined in this document be
                              further developed into a detailed, fully
                              functional, transition plan within 24 
                              months of the date of implementation of
                              the overall IANA stewardship transition;</span><span
                              style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
                              Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                            'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent:
                            -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;
                              font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><span>2.<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
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                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; ">  <span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">the budget for IANA
                              operations be augmented with specific
                              funding for the detailed transition plan
                              development referred to in 1;</span><span
                              style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
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                              font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><span>3.<span
                                  style="font-style: normal;
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                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
                              style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">the process
                              established for the potential
                              transitioning of the IANA functions to an
                              operator  other than ICANN (the escalation
                              process) specifically recognize that the
                              detailed transition plan referred to in 1
                              must be in place before the commencement
                              of the transitioning process, and</span><span
                              style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
                              Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">(KSK
                              recommendations from Jaap/Guru)</span><span
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                              Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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                                  Tahoma, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:dt4-bounces@icann.org"
                                    style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span
                                      style="color: purple; ">dt4-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span
                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
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                                    href="mailto:dt4">mailto:dt4</a>-<a
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                                    style="color: purple;
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                                      style="color: purple; ">bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span
                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On

                                    Behalf Of<span
                                      class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Grace

                                  Abuhamad<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b><span
                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span>April-08-15

                                  9:46 AM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b><span
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                                    style="color: purple;
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                                      style="color: purple; ">dt4@icann.org</span></a><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b><span
                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[DTL]

                                  Notes from DT-L Call on 8 April at
                                  13:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Dear all, </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Notes from today’s call
                                  are below: </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif; ">DT-L Call on 8 April
                                    at 13:00 UTC</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Google
                                    Doc</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:<span
                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit?usp=sharing"
                                    style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span
                                      style="color: purple; ">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit?usp=sharing</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Wiki
                                    page</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:<span
                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-L+Transition+Plan"
                                    style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span
                                      style="color: purple; ">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-L+Transition+Plan</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Members
                                    of DT-L include</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">: </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">James Gannon --
                                  apologies</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Guru Acharya</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Matthew Shears</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Christopher Wilkinson --
                                  not in attendance </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Jaap Akkerhuis</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Allan MacGillivray</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Graeme Bunton </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Notes</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">: </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Scale back ambitions for
                                  the time-being and focus on current
                                  transition plan plan. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Suggestion to meet
                                  Friday's deadline is to: </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <ul style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top:
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                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">use the
                                  template and evolve it based on the
                                  current transition plan;</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">elaborate on
                                  the high-level principles; and </span><o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">look at other
                                  dependencies with DTs (and other
                                  communities)</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">elaborate a set
                                  of recommendations for how the plan
                                  should evolve post transition </span><o:p></o:p></li>
                            </ul>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span
                                  class="apple-converted-space"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; "> </span></span><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Matthew):

                                  Capture David's comments on DT-L. Also
                                  will want to run this template by him
                                  tomorrow. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Dependencies

                                    with other DTs</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">: </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">DT-O (Budget) will not
                                  be addressing budget costs for
                                  transition plan. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">DT-M (Escalation): one
                                  of their escalation steps may at some
                                  point be a RFP or separation, but the
                                  detail is not being addressed. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Currently the escalation
                                  step relating to RFP says '6. Initiate
                                  RFP or [Process mechanism yet to be
                                  defined] [Pending Legal Advice &amp;
                                  Fundamental Bylaw definition in CCWG]'</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">--&gt; DT-L could
                                  recommend a process for transition </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span
                                  class="apple-converted-space"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; "> </span></span><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Allan):

                                  draft recommendations for escalation
                                  related aspects (will circulate on
                                  mailing list)</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">DT-N (Periodic Review)
                                  could also be related. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Things
                                    to note/edit in the document</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">: </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">- Scaling back from
                                  original plan to write a new
                                  transition plan, and instead focusing
                                  on the current transition plan and
                                  additions to it</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">- Have not received
                                  C.7.2 but submitted a DIDP request for
                                  it (submitted an received two other
                                  DIDP requests)</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span
                                  class="apple-converted-space"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; "> </span></span><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Jaap):

                                  draft text and recommendations for KSK
                                  rollover. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span
                                  class="apple-converted-space"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; "> </span></span><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Guru):

                                  go over initial concerns (6 point in
                                  an email about the trasition plan) and
                                  see if addressed in draft. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Analysis
                                    of Transition Plan</span></b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">: </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">'Document Structure'
                                  needs to refer to new proposal
                                  structure</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Transition Actions</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">'Deliverables not
                                  requiring transition' -- note the DIDP
                                  request for C.7.2</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">At best, we'll have a
                                  framework for a transition. What DT-L
                                  produces can be taken to another level
                                  at a later point. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span
                                    style="font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif; color: red; ">Deadline
                                    for edits to document in 24h. Aim
                                    for 13:00 UTC on 9 April</span></b><b><span
                                    style="font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif; ">. This way, Matthew
                                    will send text to David for
                                    review/feedback. </span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                            Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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