<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good afternoon:<div><br></div><div>I understand your interpretation of the 'remit'. I think that is not how it will be perceived beyond the narrow confines of the CWG.</div><div>The international discussion of the transition has hardly begun. I thought that the purpose of the transition was to remove the NTIA contract from iANA,&nbsp;</div><div>not to try and reproduce it in all its details in another context (which? since we have no consensus over 'contract co'.)</div><div><br></div><div>For my part, if necessary, I shall come back to this matter in another forum. Meanwhile for the next few days I have other priorities to attend to.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>CW</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 09 Apr 2015, at 02:57, Graeme Bunton &lt;<a href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com">gbunton@tucows.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    I'm going to agree here with Matthew,<br>
    I think that the process we are going through, given it's narrow
    focus should provide reassurance.<br>
    <br>
    Graeme<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/2015 6:09 PM, Matthew Shears
      wrote:<br>
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      Christopher<br>
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      I'm afraid that I continue to have great difficulty understanding
      why you think that what we are working on in DT-L is misplaced,
      naive or de-stabilizing.&nbsp; <br>
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      We are working on existing text in the current NTIA-ICANN
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<![endif]--> (attached) - text that is focused on ensuring that there is
      business continuity for the IANA functions should there be a need
      for moving (transitioning) the IANA functions to another
      contractor.&nbsp; We are not creating some new effort or activity -
      rather we are looking at something the current contract explicitly
      requires: "<span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">The
        current IANA Functions contract describes a number of functions,
        systems,<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"> processes and
        documents that would need to be transitioned from ICANN to a<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span></span><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"> successor
        organization, should the Government select a successor
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        the IANA Functions."<br>
        <br>
        We are not trying to anticipate that such a transition would or
        should occur.&nbsp; We are trying to ensure that were such a
        transition to occur there is - based on the existing contract
        requirement - a plan that allows for and encourages the
        continuity of the IANA functions.&nbsp; This is a far cry from
        de-stabilizing - indeed the purpose of this plan (as is clear in
        section C.7 of the current contract) is the opposite.<br>
        <br>
        Thanks.<br>
        <br>
        Matthew </span><br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/2015 10:21 PM, CW Lists wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote cite="mid:6AC06C2A-D0A4-44B5-91D3-0F1ADDC8C255@christopherwilkinson.eu" type="cite">
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        <base href="x-msg://18/">In which case the 'remit' and the DT-L
        interpretation of it, is at best quite naive.
        <div>I maintain my postion. No. Such texts are at worst,
          deliberately de-stabilising.</div>
        <div><br>
          <div>CW</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
            <div>
              <div>On 08 Apr 2015, at 22:41, Allan MacGillivray &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>&gt;

                wrote:</div>
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                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Christopher

                        – the remit of DT L is limited to the design of
                        the actual transition plan, not the processes or
                        circumstances under which a decision to effect
                        such a transition might be undertaken.&nbsp; &nbsp;On our
                        call today, the DT L team acknowledged that
                        given the time constraints that we are operating
                        under, what we would produce might only really
                        be seen to be a framework for such a transition
                        plan and that it would need to be further
                        elaborated in the future.&nbsp; The recommendation
                        that you refer to ( 1., below) implicitly
                        acknowledges &nbsp;this and goes on to recommend a
                        deadline for completing such a detailed plan.
                        &nbsp;The 24 months I chose was somewhat arbitrary,
                        and was intended to recognize that one year
                        might be too short, given all that will be going
                        on.&nbsp; If you have another suggestion, it would be
                        welcomed; the recommendations that I put out are
                        intended to seek comments.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Allan<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span></div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border-style: solid none none;
                        border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color:
                        rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; ">
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                              Tahoma, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
                            sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>CW
                            Lists [<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:lists@">mailto:lists@</a><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://christopherwilkinson.eu/" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline; ">christopherwilkinson.eu</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
                            <b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>April-08-15

                            11:04 AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Allan

                            MacGillivray<br>
                            <b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dt4@icann.org" style="color:
                              purple; text-decoration: underline; ">dt4@icann.org</a>;
                            Jonathan Robinson; Lise Fuhr<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re:
                            [DTL] Notes from DT-L Call on 8 April at
                            13:00 UTC<br>
                            <b>Importance:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>High<o:p></o:p></span></div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                      12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">So,
                      on that basis you would give two years, only, for
                      any interested parties to complain and make as
                      much trouble as they like to force the issue of a
                      'transition'.<o:p></o:p></div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">To

                        who? I can see the candidates lining up. Please
                        bear in mind that there is a well established
                        regulatory principle that control over critical
                        infrastructure should not revert to dominant
                        operators.<o:p></o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I
                        wish to be recorded as opposing the language
                        that DT-L is proposing.<o:p></o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">CW<o:p></o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                        12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                            Roman', serif; ">On 08 Apr 2015, at 16:18,
                            Allan MacGillivray &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                              underline; ">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>&gt;

                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
                        </div>
                        <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
                          12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>
                          <br>
                          <o:p></o:p></div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                              Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Further to
                                our call, this is what I propose for
                                recommendations for DTL:</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                              Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                          </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                            New Roman', serif; line-height: 13.5pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">DT-L
                              Recommendations</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
                            New Roman', serif; line-height: 13.5pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">That:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
                            10pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:
                            'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent:
                            -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;
                              font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><span>1.<span style="font-style: normal;
                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">the transition
                              framework outlined in this document be
                              further developed into a detailed, fully
                              functional, transition plan within 24&nbsp;
                              months of the date of implementation of
                              the overall IANA stewardship transition;</span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
                              Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                  font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                                  normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">the budget for IANA
                              operations be augmented with specific
                              funding for the detailed transition plan
                              development referred to in 1;</span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
                              Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                              font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><span>3.<span style="font-style: normal;
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                                  normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                  Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">the process
                              established for the potential
                              transitioning of the IANA functions to an
                              operator&nbsp; other than ICANN (the escalation
                              process) specifically recognize that the
                              detailed transition plan referred to in 1
                              must be in place before the commencement
                              of the transitioning process, and</span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
                              Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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                                  Roman'; ">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; ">(KSK
                              recommendations from Jaap/Guru)</span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family:
                              Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Tahoma, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                    Tahoma, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  Tahoma, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dt4-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">dt4-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dt4">mailto:dt4</a>-<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On

                                    Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Grace

                                  Abuhamad<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>April-08-15

                                  9:46 AM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dt4@icann.org" style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">dt4@icann.org</span></a><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[DTL]

                                  Notes from DT-L Call on 8 April at
                                  13:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                            <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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                              Roman', serif; ">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Dear all,&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Notes from today’s call
                                  are below:&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif; ">DT-L Call on 8 April
                                    at 13:00 UTC</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Google
                                    Doc</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:<span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit?usp=sharing" style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit?usp=sharing</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Wiki
                                    page</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:<span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-L+Transition+Plan" style="color: purple;
                                    text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: purple; ">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-L+Transition+Plan</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Members
                                    of DT-L include</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">James Gannon --
                                  apologies</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Guru Acharya</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Matthew Shears</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Christopher Wilkinson --
                                  not in attendance&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Jaap Akkerhuis</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Allan MacGillivray</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">Graeme Bunton&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Notes</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Scale back ambitions for
                                  the time-being and focus on current
                                  transition plan plan.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Suggestion to meet
                                  Friday's deadline is to:&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                            <ul style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top:
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                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">use the
                                  template and evolve it based on the
                                  current transition plan;</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">elaborate on
                                  the high-level principles; and&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">look at other
                                  dependencies with DTs (and other
                                  communities)</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm
                                0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
                                font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">elaborate a set
                                  of recommendations for how the plan
                                  should evolve post transition&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                            </ul>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Matthew):

                                  Capture David's comments on DT-L. Also
                                  will want to run this template by him
                                  tomorrow.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Dependencies

                                    with other DTs</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">DT-O (Budget) will not
                                  be addressing budget costs for
                                  transition plan.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">DT-M (Escalation): one
                                  of their escalation steps may at some
                                  point be a RFP or separation, but the
                                  detail is not being addressed.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Currently the escalation
                                  step relating to RFP says '6. Initiate
                                  RFP or [Process mechanism yet to be
                                  defined] [Pending Legal Advice &amp;
                                  Fundamental Bylaw definition in CCWG]'</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">--&gt; DT-L could
                                  recommend a process for transition&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Allan):

                                  draft recommendations for escalation
                                  related aspects (will circulate on
                                  mailing list)</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">DT-N (Periodic Review)
                                  could also be related.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Things
                                    to note/edit in the document</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">- Scaling back from
                                  original plan to write a new
                                  transition plan, and instead focusing
                                  on the current transition plan and
                                  additions to it</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">- Have not received
                                  C.7.2 but submitted a DIDP request for
                                  it (submitted an received two other
                                  DIDP requests)</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Jaap):

                                  draft text and recommendations for KSK
                                  rollover.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">Action</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: blue; ">&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue; ">(Guru):

                                  go over initial concerns (6 point in
                                  an email about the trasition plan) and
                                  see if addressed in draft.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Analysis
                                    of Transition Plan</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; ">:&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">'Document Structure'
                                  needs to refer to new proposal
                                  structure</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">Transition Actions</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">'Deliverables not
                                  requiring transition' -- note the DIDP
                                  request for C.7.2</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
                                  10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; ">At best, we'll have a
                                  framework for a transition. What DT-L
                                  produces can be taken to another level
                                  at a later point.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size:
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                                  sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
                                Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif; color: red; ">Deadline
                                    for edits to document in 24h. Aim
                                    for 13:00 UTC on 9 April</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif; ">. This way, Matthew
                                    will send text to David for
                                    review/feedback.&nbsp;</span></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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