<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Matthew,</div><div><br></div><div>I've made a few edits and comments.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm a bit confused on the KSK transition bit. The way the KSK is managed, what really needs to transition is the administration of the HSMs, its supporting infrastructure, and the operation of the key ceremonies. In the ideal world, this would be done in conjunction with a KSK rollover, but that would be scary and take a long time. As such, the "lighter approach" would probably be preferred (I believe a KSK rollover will have been done long before this process would ever have a chance to be executed). While swapping out HSMs wouldn't hurt and might improve the trust level a bit, I'm not sure I see the point given the openness/transparency of how the HSMs are actually used. I'd think a ceremony in which control of the HSMs and the ceremonies were transferred would be sufficient.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>-drc</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Matthew Shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 8:08 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> David Conrad <<a href="mailto:david.conrad@icann.org">david.conrad@icann.org</a>>, Design Team Four <<a href="mailto:dt4@icann.org">dt4@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [DTL] Notes from DT-L Call on 8 April at 13:00 UTC<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><br>
Hi David<br><br>
I think we are as far as we can get without your review and thoughts. Hope you don't mind giving this a careful read. Please let us know if there are things that are missing, don't make sense, etc.<br><br>
If you edit in suggesting mode that would appreciated.<br><br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit</a><br><br>
Just for background... Given time constraints, etc., we decided it was probably best to go back to the existing plan and use that as the basis for our review. We have characterized our evolution of the existing doc as a "business continuity" framework rather
than a full plan and recommend that a full(er) plan be developed post transition.<br><br>
Thanks so much.<br><br>
Matthew<br><br><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/8/2015 7:04 PM, David Conrad wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite="mid:D14ABB84.5AAE%25david.conrad@icann.org" type="cite"><div>No worries. When I get it, I'll take a look and get back to you asap.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>-drc</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt;
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BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Matthew Shears <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 7:14 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>David Conrad <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:david.conrad@icann.org">david.conrad@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Fwd: [DTL] Notes from DT-L Call on 8 April at 13:00 UTC<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0
0 0 5;"><div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><br><div class="moz-forward-container">Hi David<br><br>
Hope you don't mind me running this template by your tomorrow for your feedback.<br><br>
Apologies for the short notice.<br><br>
Matthew<br><br>
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<table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Subject: </th><td>[DTL] Notes from DT-L Call on 8 April at 13:00 UTC</td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th><td>Wed, 8 Apr 2015 13:45:52 +0000</td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th><td>Grace Abuhamad <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org">
<grace.abuhamad@icann.org></a></td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th><td><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dt4@icann.org">dt4@icann.org</a><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dt4@icann.org"><dt4@icann.org></a></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Dear all, </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Notes from today’s call are below: </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><b>DT-L Call on 8 April at 13:00 UTC</b></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><b>Google Doc</b>: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRiXP9-nxM-h8FgJ_FyM962EwdjnRESrDT2jOtlRZZ0/edit?usp=sharing</a></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><b>Wiki page</b>: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-L+Transition+Plan">
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-L+Transition+Plan</a></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><b>Members of DT-L include</b>: </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">James Gannon -- apologies</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Guru Acharya</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Matthew Shears</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Christopher Wilkinson -- not in attendance </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Jaap Akkerhuis</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Allan MacGillivray</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Graeme Bunton </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><b>Notes</b>: </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Scale back ambitions for the time-being and focus on current transition plan plan. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Suggestion to meet Friday's deadline is to: </div><ul style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><li>use the template and evolve it based on the current transition plan; </li><li>elaborate on the high-level principles; and </li><li>look at other dependencies with DTs (and other communities) </li><li>elaborate a set of recommendations for how the plan should evolve post transition
</li></ul><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000ff"><b>Action</b> (Matthew): Capture David's comments on DT-L. Also will want to run this template by him tomorrow. </font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><b>Dependencies with other DTs</b>: </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">DT-O (Budget) will not be addressing budget costs for transition plan. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">DT-M (Escalation): one of their escalation steps may at some point be a RFP or separation, but the detail is not being addressed. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Currently the escalation step relating to RFP says '6. Initiate RFP or [Process mechanism yet to be defined] [Pending Legal Advice & Fundamental Bylaw definition in CCWG]'</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">--> DT-L could recommend a process for transition </div><div style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000ff"><b>Action</b> (Allan): draft recommendations for escalation related aspects (will circulate on mailing list)</font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">DT-N (Periodic Review) could also be related. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><b>Things to note/edit in the document</b>: </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">- Scaling back from original plan to write a new transition plan, and instead focusing on the current transition plan and additions to it</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">- Have not received C.7.2 but submitted a DIDP request for it (submitted an received two other DIDP requests)</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000ff"><b>Action</b> (Jaap): draft text and recommendations for KSK rollover. </font></div><div style="font-size: 14px;"><font color="#0000ff"><b>Action</b> (Guru): go over initial concerns (6 point in an email about the trasition plan) and see if addressed in draft. </font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><b>Analysis of Transition Plan</b>: </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">'Document Structure' needs to refer to new proposal structure</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">Transition Actions</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">'Deliverables not requiring transition' -- note the DIDP request for C.7.2</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;">At best, we'll have a framework for a transition. What DT-L produces can be taken to another level at a later point. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div><b style="font-size: 16px;"><font color="#ff0000">Deadline for edits to document in 24h. Aim for 13:00 UTC on 9 April</font>. This way, Matthew will send text to David for review/feedback. </b></div></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px;"><br></div><br></div><br></div></div></blockquote></span></blockquote><br><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Matthew Shears
Global Internet Policy and Human Rights
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