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    Dear Yrjö,<br>
    <br>
    thank you very much for starting this discussion. Please be so kind
    to find a few of my personal points of views, interspersed in your
    text:<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/07/2016 16:32, Yrjö Länsipuro
      wrote:<br>
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            <span lang="EN-US">Dear members of the Task Force,</span></p>
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            <span lang="EN-US">A few thoughts on our task:</span></p>
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            <span lang="EN-US">1) It is self-evident that without active
              ALS's, EURALO (like other RALOs and At Large itself) would
              be just an<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>empty shell. The credibility of ALAC/At Large as "t</span><span
              style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333;
              background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">he primary
              organizational home within</span><span
              style="color:#333333;mso-ansi-language:FI"> </span><span
              style="mso-bidi-font-size:
              10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:FI">ICANN</span><span
              style="color:#333333;mso-ansi-language:
              FI"> </span><span
              style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333;
              background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">for individual
              Internet users" hinges on whether our voice is emanating
              from the grassroots or just from a club of "usual
              suspects". <br>
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    Ever since I have been involved in At-Large this has been a key
    component part and potential criticism. Indeed, ICANN as a whole is
    often accused of being a small club of "usual suspects" and the
    mission for the ALAC &amp; At-Large Community is to make sure it is
    not. It is a very serious mission indeed.<br>
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            <span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333;
              background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">2) As we heard from
              Wolf at the EURALO call (July 26), earlier attempts at
              enhancing the grassroots engagement have been resisted by
              some ALS's as bureaucratic meddling from EURALO's side. <span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><span
                style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> </span>As unjustified as such criticism may be,
              now we have to make absolutely sure that our efforts
              <span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> </span>will not be seen in such light, and don't
              meet the same fate.</span></p>
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    Today we are at an intersection with two more components which make
    the game very different indeed:<br>
    <br>
    1. The implementation of the At-Large Summit recommendations<br>
    These were decided by the At-Large community, drafted at the Summit
    in London (June 2014) and ratified unanimously by the ALAC. It is
    the will of the At-Large Community to proceed forward with these
    changes. The tracking of the recommendation implementation is on:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/x/IJZCAw">https://community.icann.org/x/IJZCAw</a><br>
    Recommendation #28<br>
    Recommendation #29<br>
    Recommendation #42<br>
    Recommendation #43<br>
    <br>
    2. The current ALAC Review. <br>
    This is a bylaw-mandated independent review of the ALAC and its
    component parts. Recommendations from the independent review are
    binding once the ALAC ratifies them and the plan is sent to the
    ICANN Board.<br>
    The At-Large Review Working Party's page is on:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/x/aZMQAw">https://community.icann.org/x/aZMQAw</a><br>
    <br>
    This second process will make recommendations on improving the RALOs
    which are non negotiable. I would think that ALSes which have a
    problem with the recommendations would be better served in taking
    part in the current process of self-improvement, rather than waiting
    to be told what to do in the RALO top down. Because I also have to
    add one more thing: the concept that a RALO is "sovereign" is
    completely false. The RALO has obligations to ICANN and if these
    obligations are not met, including working with ICANN on regional
    outreach and strategic plans, the ALAC has the option of ending its
    MoU with the RALO and to create a new one with new members.<br>
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            <span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333;
              background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">3) If one looks at
              the EURALO ALS list
              (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo">https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo</a>), two facts jump
              out.
              <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>First, the <b
                style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">
                great diversity</b> of the ALS's as to their nature and
              areas of interest. <span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes">
                 </span>Some<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>cover
              a broad spectrum of internet and information society
              issues.
              <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Some are
              interested in a more narrow segment among them.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>Some<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>are
              NGO's<span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> 
              </span>engaged in other fields that have joined the At
              Large because of the importance of the internet in<span
                style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> 
              </span>their core activities.<span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes">  </span>Thus, their engagement in<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>At Large varies greatly in relevance and subject
              matter interest from one ALS to the next.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>Thus, <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">one
                size does not fit all</b>.<span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> 
              </span>( The other salient feature is EURALO's lopsided
              geography, especially the absence of ALS's in some parts
              of Europe. That is a separate problem, but our work may
              also contribute to solving it)</span></p>
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    Absolutely agreed -- but you know, EURALO is not the only region
    like this. The whole At-Large Community is very diverse. Hence ATLAS
    II recommendations #28 and #29. <br>
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            <span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333;
              background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">4) Enhancing the
              measurable activity level of ALS's is not an end in
              itself. Statistics aside,<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>we are first of all interested in their <b
                style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">
                activities that support the main role of At Large/ALAC</b>
              "to consider and provide advice on the activities of</span><span
              style="color:#333333;mso-ansi-language:FI"> </span><span
              style="mso-bidi-font-size:
              10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:FI">ICANN</span><span
              style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;
              color:#333333;background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">,
              insofar as they relate to the interests of individual
              Internet users".<span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> 
              </span>Thus, all potential expertise "hidden" in the ALS's
              should be discovered and<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>leveraged in preparing ALAC advice on ICANN
              activities.<span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> 
              </span>This would relieve the workload of those few who
              now do most of the drafting.<span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> 
              </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Here, the
              diversity and different fields of specialization of ALS's
              could actually be a great asset.</span></p>
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    Ooops, sorry, at the risk of repeating myself -- see #28 &amp; #29
    :-)<br>
    We are entirely in agreement.<br>
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            <span style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333;
              background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">5) An ALS can play
              an important role as
              <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">a component of the
                multistakeholder setup at the national level</b> and
              even as the initiator for national-level multistakeholder
              cooperation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>To what extent this actually happens,<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>
              varies from country to country, <span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>with have different
              traditions of communications among different sectors of
              the society, but the potential for improvement seems to be
              there.
              <span style="mso-spacerun:
                yes"> </span>Like charity, multistakeholderism starts<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>at home. The engagement of ALS´s in national
              multistakeholder cooperation should be actively promoted
              by EURALO, ie. by facilitating their contacts with other
              national level stakeholders active in ICANN.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
              </span>(The table<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>prepared
              by Oksana is a good beginning for mapping the situation in
              various countries)</span></p>
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    Absolutely agree.<br>
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            <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;color:#333333;background:white;mso-ansi-language:FI">6)
                In my view, the Task Force should focus on<span
                  style="mso-spacerun:
                  yes"> 
                </span>(1) how to encourage the participation of fresh
                expert resources from the ALS's, according to their area
                of specialization, in the development of ALAC advice to
                ICANN's policy development processes and (2) how to
                encourage ALS's to play an active part in the
                multistakeholder processes on the national level.</span></b></p>
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    I would hope that the task force can also play a good part in the
    mapping &amp; the topics of interest from #28 &amp; #29.<br>
    <br>
    Last but not least, I think the task force should also be looking at
    the work of the At-Large ALS Criteria and Expectations Task Force.
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/x/AohCAw">https://community.icann.org/x/AohCAw</a><br>
    <br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
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