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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have two topics and two volunteers so far. One from GAC and one from GNSO – possibly for the same topic?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We did not put a deadline / time for when the leads need to be in place but agreed the need for speed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Therefore, I suggest we work to a deadline of tomorrow (midnight UTC) and then move ahead with the work of the two groups next week.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br><b>Sent:</b> 08 January 2014 15:50<br><b>To:</b> Suzanne Radell<br><b>Cc:</b> GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Mikey's unofficial, unedited notes from today's teleconference<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>hi Suzanne,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>dang. i just had a brain-dead day yesterday. i put the “early engagement in the PDP” phrase up in the subject line of my note — i should have repeated it down in the body. anyway, that’s the one i was volunteering to help with as well — i’m pretty familiar with the PDP. i’m completely unfamiliar with the issues associated with the “day to day cooperation” part.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>all that said, i’d be completely fine with you as the rapporteur on the Early Engagement piece. i’ll be a really active participant. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>but if you wanted, you could switch to Day to Day Cooperation.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>mikey<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 8, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Suzanne Radell <<a href="mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov">SRadell@ntia.doc.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all, and many thanks for the exchanges yesterday during our call. I’d be happy to volunteer to either lead or co-lead (what do you all think of a GAC-GNSO shared lead?) the second piece of the project, GAC early engagement in GNSO PDPs. If I’ve understood Mikey’s email properly, he has volunteered to lead the day to day cooperation element, yes? If not, my apologies. Best regards, Suz</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Suzanne Murray Radell</span></i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Senior Policy Advisor, NTIA/OIA</span></i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>202-482-3167</span></i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike O'Connor; <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Mikey's unofficial, unedited notes from today's teleconference</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Many thanks Mikey for volunteering to take notes of yesterday's call and for sending them so quickly !!</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We, Jonathan and I, would like to particularly highlight the following urgent actions, for those who were not on the call yesterday:</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The deadline for submitting comments on the charter was agreed to be next Friday, Jan. 10<sup>th</sup> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Call for volunteers to lead 2 tracks of work, GAC-GNSO day-to-day cooperation & GAC Early Engagement in GNSO PDP .. Both agreed to work in parallel with 2 different leads and the participation of the entire group</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to receiving comments and welcoming volunteers ..</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind regards</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 07, 2014 5:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Gac-gnso-cg] Mikey's unofficial,unedited notes from today's teleconference</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>GAC GNSO 7-Jan <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>1. Summarise status quo <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> 2. Scope of Work - Charter <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Remove "yet to be addressed" line <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> "Initial proposal" -- are there any beyond the Reverse Liason? <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_1"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Table -- circulated to the list <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Reverse liaison -- on the table -- <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>There may be opportunities for additional mechanisms <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Looking for ideas to complement Reverse Liaison <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Ask staff for proposals and ideas <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul></ul><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Highlight the problem of "different working methods" <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_2"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Hard to maintain the current "episodic" norm <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Matching GAC working methods with the current process <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Amplify in "what it problem to be solved" -- perhaps add to a different section as well <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Appears in Chronology section <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Appears in Objectives -- perhaps clarify/amplify here <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Taking the Joint Report as a given -- presuming that there's agreement <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Title - GAC-GNSO Consultation Group on GAC Early Engagement in Policy Development Processes <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Should "Who will be affected...." change to "Who is impacted by this issue and proposals resulting from this consultation group"? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Clarify timeline <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Clarify whether this is a one-time effort, or an ongoing iterative project <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Stakeholders: <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_3"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Iron out the differences between staff structure -- include Secretariats <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Anyone interested in gtld policy -- explicitly mention GAC and GNSO <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Out Scope <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_4"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Timely exchange of information <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US>Delete the phrase from "out of scope”? <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo4'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> 3. Way forward - work plan from here <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul type=disc id="fold1_2"><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo4'><span lang=EN-US>Approach in the charter is OK - two tracks w/leaders, work as a single group <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> 4. Practical issues including meeting times <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul type=disc id="fold1_3"><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5'><span lang=EN-US>Time of day works <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5'><span lang=EN-US>Meeting *dates* are more difficult -- maybe the focus of the Doodle poll? <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6'><span lang=EN-US>5. AOB <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7'><span class=foldclosed><span lang=EN-US>+</span></span><span lang=EN-US> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Actions <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul type=disc id="fold1_4"><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-US>All - review and propose edits -- by Friday this week <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-US>Charter group - finalize draft for next meeting <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-US>All - consider volunteering to lead one of the 2 tracks of work <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-US>All - react to the questions in the table that Jonathan circulated to the list <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-US>Chairs? -- get on the agendas of our respective org's - progress/update <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: <a href="http://www.haven2.com/">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: <a href="http://www.haven2.com">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>