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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all, if need be, I will be happy to shift to the “day to day” issue, to permit us to have at least one lead for each topic. I am still interested in hearing others’ views regarding the concept of shared leads for each topic. Best regards, Suz <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Mike O'Connor'; Suzanne Radell<br><b>Cc:</b> GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Gac-gnso-cg] Mikey's unofficial, unedited notes from today's teleconference<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have two topics and two volunteers so far. One from GAC and one from GNSO – possibly for the same topic?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We did not put a deadline / time for when the leads need to be in place but agreed the need for speed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Therefore, I suggest we work to a deadline of tomorrow (midnight UTC) and then move ahead with the work of the two groups next week.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br><b>Sent:</b> 08 January 2014 15:50<br><b>To:</b> Suzanne Radell<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Mikey's unofficial, unedited notes from today's teleconference<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>hi Suzanne,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>dang. i just had a brain-dead day yesterday. i put the “early engagement in the PDP” phrase up in the subject line of my note — i should have repeated it down in the body. anyway, that’s the one i was volunteering to help with as well — i’m pretty familiar with the PDP. i’m completely unfamiliar with the issues associated with the “day to day cooperation” part.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>all that said, i’d be completely fine with you as the rapporteur on the Early Engagement piece. i’ll be a really active participant. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>but if you wanted, you could switch to Day to Day Cooperation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>mikey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On Jan 8, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Suzanne Radell <<a href="mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov">SRadell@ntia.doc.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all, and many thanks for the exchanges yesterday during our call. I’d be happy to volunteer to either lead or co-lead (what do you all think of a GAC-GNSO shared lead?) the second piece of the project, GAC early engagement in GNSO PDPs. If I’ve understood Mikey’s email properly, he has volunteered to lead the day to day cooperation element, yes? If not, my apologies. Best regards, Suz</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Suzanne Murray Radell</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Senior Policy Advisor, NTIA/OIA</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>202-482-3167</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mike O'Connor; <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Mikey's unofficial, unedited notes from today's teleconference</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Many thanks Mikey for volunteering to take notes of yesterday's call and for sending them so quickly !!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We, Jonathan and I, would like to particularly highlight the following urgent actions, for those who were not on the call yesterday:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The deadline for submitting comments on the charter was agreed to be next Friday, Jan. 10<sup>th</sup> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Call for volunteers to lead 2 tracks of work, GAC-GNSO day-to-day cooperation & GAC Early Engagement in GNSO PDP .. Both agreed to work in parallel with 2 different leads and the participation of the entire group</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to receiving comments and welcoming volunteers ..</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 07, 2014 5:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Gac-gnso-cg] Mikey's unofficial,unedited notes from today's teleconference</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p>GAC GNSO 7-Jan <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>1. Summarise status quo <o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> 2. Scope of Work - Charter <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Remove "yet to be addressed" line <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> "Initial proposal" -- are there any beyond the Reverse Liason? <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_1"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Table -- circulated to the list <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Reverse liaison -- on the table -- <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'>There may be opportunities for additional mechanisms <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'>Looking for ideas to complement Reverse Liaison <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'>Ask staff for proposals and ideas <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul></ul><p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Highlight the problem of "different working methods" <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_2"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Hard to maintain the current "episodic" norm <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Matching GAC working methods with the current process <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Amplify in "what it problem to be solved" -- perhaps add to a different section as well <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'>Appears in Chronology section <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo3'>Appears in Objectives -- perhaps clarify/amplify here <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul></ul><ul type=disc><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Taking the Joint Report as a given -- presuming that there's agreement <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul><p style='margin-left:1.0in'>Title - GAC-GNSO Consultation Group on GAC Early Engagement in Policy Development Processes <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:1.0in'>Should "Who will be affected...." change to "Who is impacted by this issue and proposals resulting from this consultation group"? <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:1.0in'>Clarify timeline <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:1.0in'>Clarify whether this is a one-time effort, or an ongoing iterative project <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Stakeholders: <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_3"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Iron out the differences between staff structure -- include Secretariats <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Anyone interested in gtld policy -- explicitly mention GAC and GNSO <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul><p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Out Scope <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc id="fold1_1_4"><ul type=circle><ul type=square><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Timely exchange of information <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo3'>Delete the phrase from "out of scope”? <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo4'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> 3. Way forward - work plan from here <o:p></o:p></li></ul><ul type=disc id="fold1_2"><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo4'>Approach in the charter is OK - two tracks w/leaders, work as a single group <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> 4. Practical issues including meeting times <o:p></o:p></li></ul><ul type=disc id="fold1_3"><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5'>Time of day works <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo5'>Meeting *dates* are more difficult -- maybe the focus of the Doodle poll? <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6'>5. AOB <o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo7'><span class=foldclosed>+</span> <span class=foldopened>-</span> Actions <o:p></o:p></li></ul><ul type=disc id="fold1_4"><ul type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'>All - review and propose edits -- by Friday this week <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'>Charter group - finalize draft for next meeting <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'>All - consider volunteering to lead one of the 2 tracks of work <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'>All - react to the questions in the table that Jonathan circulated to the list <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo7'>Chairs? -- get on the agendas of our respective org's - progress/update <o:p></o:p></li></ul></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: <a href="http://www.haven2.com/">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><br></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: <a href="http://www.haven2.com">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>