<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>To add tho this conversation, I believe the reason why some are using the BoF term in an ICANN context is because it is a standard part of the process in the IETF (see <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc5434">http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc5434</a>) and as such some have suggested that a similar format should be explored to encourage conversations in an ICANN context before kicking off a formal PDP.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Marika</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> "<Campillos Gonzalez>", Gema Maria <<a href="mailto:GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es">GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday 21 January 2014 17:10<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Olof Nordling <<a href="mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org">olof.nordling@icann.org</a>>, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Early work of the GNSO Policy & Implemenation WG<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thank you, Olof. I´m learning English very quickly with you, but as I´ve just to Jonathan we should rather look for another more straightforward term to say the same.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Gema<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">De:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> Olof Nordling [<a href="mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org">mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org</a>]
<br><b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 21 de enero de 2014 16:35<br><b>Para:</b> Jonathan Robinson; Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria; <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Asunto:</b> RE: [Gac-gnso-cg] Early work of the GNSO Policy & Implemenation WG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Gema, Jonathan, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve seen BOF being used in the RIRs with the meaning “those interested in a particular topic” without necessarily agreeing a priori on any aspects of that topic. Just to illustrate on an anecdotal note, a late
night “Whisky BOF” would gather those interested in that particular beverage to consume, debate and disagree on their brand preferences;-)
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Olof </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria'; <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">
GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Early work of the GNSO Policy & Implemenation WG
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks Gema, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Useful input and I am especially mindful of the need to use plain, simple language for the benefit of all, including English speakers. So support for that.
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">To the point on birds of a feather. BOF has the dictionary meaning you highlight and is, in my experience, generally applied as a comment by a third party to a group of others referred to as “birds of a feather”.
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In this context, the meaning is slightly different in that it generally seems to be applied to an invitation to individuals to form a group. Others may be more familiar with the use in policy making / ICANN
context. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jonathan </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria<br><b>Sent:</b> 21 January 2014 13:33<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Early work of the GNSO Policy & Implemenation WG
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you for the draft list of definitions, Jonathan.
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It´s quite revealing to know that “GNSO consensus policies” and at large, ICANN consensus policies are not policies struck at necessarily by consensus (agreement) but, rather, with the participation of all stakeholders.
The term encompasses a process to pass policies –which is described at Annex A of the Bylaws and the PDP Manual and which specifies several majority options to approve policies- and a list of matters on which a PDP is feasible, which are included in the sections
called “consensus policies and temporary policies” in the Registrar and Registry agreements with ICANN.
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">One last remark pertaining to the “GAC engagement on the GNSO Policy Development Process” table: the dictionaries I´ve looked up explain that “birds of a feather” is part of a proverb which means that people
who think alike or belong to the same class or have similar habits end up being friends or a team. That leads me to think that when the table uses this expression is thinking of an homogenous group of GAC members, what would be out of any logic since the GNSO
would only have the vision of like-minded members of the GAC. Please, tell me if my understanding is correct.
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">A more general request I would make is to try to use plain simple English being mindful of the difficulties and misunderstandings language may cause in non-native speakers, as I´ve seen the ATRT 2 report advises.
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I hope you have a fruitful call.
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best regards, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Gema </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">De:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>En nombre de </b>Jonathan Robinson<br><b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 21 de enero de 2014 12:23<br><b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Asunto:</b> [Gac-gnso-cg] Early work of the GNSO Policy & Implemenation WG </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">All, <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">One of the many parallel threads going on is the work being undertaken by the Policy & Implementation WG.
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">They have undertaken some initial work on common understanding of definitions which is nearing a final draft form.
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I believe you may well find it helpful background to read through the draft definitions (Attached).
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">N.B. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i>These working definitions have been developed for the limited use by the GNSO Policy & Implementation Working Group to facilitate their discussions and deliberations on the questions outlined in the working group’s charter. These definitions
are expected to evolve as a result of the WG deliberations. At the end of the process, the WG is expected to review these definitions, add/update as deemed appropriate and include them in the Final Report.
</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jonathan <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></span></body></html>