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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Marika and Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rather than “at the end stage”, perhaps “ in the final stage” is preferable as the more usual turn of phrase. I thought “at a very late stage” was ok because it effectively conveys a useful emphasis of near finality and “late” has simply the temporal meaning here: as in "they won the match with a late goal" it does not infer a delay or tardiness.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 January 2014 11:10<br><b>To:</b> Marika Konings; Mike O'Connor; GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] version 7 of the charter - reflecting the last editson today's call<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Marika .. I see your point and personally, I’m fine with replacing 'at a very late stage' by 'at the end' ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For the sake of the charter, I believe the more we stick to facts, rather than opinions, the easier we reach consensus ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings [<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">mailto:marika.konings@icann.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Manal Ismail; Mike O'Connor; <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] version 7 of the charter - reflecting the last editson today's call<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If I may make another suggestion for a change – could we use 'at the end' instead of 'at a very late stage' so that the sentence as reworded by Manal would read 'A timing difficulty arises because the Board seeks GAC advice only when the GNSO PDP reaches the Board at the end stage of the GNSO policy-deliberation process'. Very late stage seems to imply that it should have reached the Board earlier but it didn't, while at the end stage reflects the reality of the current PDP (the Board only gets involved at the end stage of the process).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday 29 January 2014 11:14<br><b>To: </b>Mike O'Connor <<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">mike@haven2.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] version 7 of the charter - reflecting the last editson today's call<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Many thanks Mikey, as usual unbeatable speed </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> .. </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear All ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I've included below the paragraph under debate for ease of reference .. </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>"The GAC is structured under the ICANN Bylaws to provide advice to the Board. A timing difficulty arises because the GNSO PDP reaches the Board at a very late stage of the GNSO policy-deliberation process and it may only be at that time that the GAC turns its attention to the GNSO’s work. [Only then does the Board request GAC advice, which is an example of a process that appears to need review and improvement.]" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The sentence "</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>and it may only be at that time that the GAC turns its attention to the GNSO’s work.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>" implies that the GAC does not know about the GNSO's work until the Board seeks advice, which is not the case ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hence the suggestion I did during the call was: </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>"The GAC is structured under the ICANN Bylaws to provide advice to the Board. A timing difficulty arises because the Board seeks GAC advice only when the GNSO PDP reaches the Board at a very late stage of the GNSO policy-deliberation process."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I also believe this serves the purpose:</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>"The GAC is structured under the ICANN Bylaws to provide advice to the Board. The GNSO PDP reaches the Board at a very late stage of the GNSO policy-deliberation process. A timing difficulty arises when the Board then seeks GAC advice because only at that time that the GNSO gets to know about GAC concerns. [A process that appears to need review and improvement.] <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For me, the sentence between square brackets is not indicated but does not harm the meaning ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to hearing what others think ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Gac-gnso-cg] version 7 of the charter - reflecting the last editson today's call</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>here’s the version of the draft<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>m<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br>This email was received from the INTERNET and scanned by the Government Secure Intranet anti-virus service supplied by Vodafone in partnership with Symantec. 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