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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Perfect .. then the three of us are on the same page .. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Amr for following-up on this and making your point clear and apologies if I had initially misunderstood your suggestion ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to hearing what Jonathan and other colleagues think so that we can proceed ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mike O'Connor<br><b>Cc:</b> Manal Ismail; gac-gnso-cgs@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Right you are, Mikey. Posting of current versions is what I had in mind. I had actually intended to use the “thick” WHOIS PDP WG’s wiki as an example. I think it would have been a great one to show the folks on this list. It had the links for the sub-teams and many feedback documents from the community on the charter questions (all final references, not working drafts), but I found out that it had been significantly changed in preparation for the Implementation Review Team.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Amr<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Mike O'Connor <<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">mike@haven2.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'>hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'>i agree. i’ve found that wiki’s are a great way to collect the current versions of drafts. looking through Amr’s note, i think this is where he’s headed as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'>actually using the wiki as a place to *revise* drafts is harder, but i don’t think Amr is headed that direction. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'>mikey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'>On Feb 25, 2014, at 6:23 AM, Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg"><span style='color:purple'>manal@tra.gov.eg</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Amr ..</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind ..</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC ..</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to hearing what others think ..</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Amr Elsadr<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow’s meeting in addition to this group’s draft charter. It’s a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Using a wiki page doesn’t pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group’s requests to do so.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Check this wiki page for the <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliteration+of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home"><span style='color:purple'>Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP</span></a> as an example. It’s a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn’t been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG’s charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn’t hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Let me know what you think.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Amr<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>Gac-gnso-cg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Gac-gnso-cg@icann.org"><span style='color:purple'>Gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</span></a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gac-gnso-cg"><span style='color:purple'>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gac-gnso-cg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.haven2.com/"><span style='color:purple'>www.haven2.com</span></a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>