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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No objection from me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b> 25 February 2014 14:19<br><b>To:</b> Marika Konings; Amr Elsadr<br><b>Cc:</b> <gac-gnso-cg@icann.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Marika .. Always ready to help ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If there is further support from Jonathan and other colleagues, we can proceed ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings [<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">mailto:marika.konings@icann.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> Amr Elsadr; Manal Ismail<br><b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If there is further support for this idea, staff could create such a page on the GNSO wiki under the heading 'joint SO-AC Working Groups' (see <a href="https://community.icann.org/category/gnso">https://community.icann.org/category/gnso</a>)?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday 25 February 2014 14:00<br><b>To: </b>Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Manal,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Yeah…, you’re right in your first assumption of a viewer-friendly public archive, and certainly not to be used as a collaborative platform. I’ve been doing a lot of reading over the past couple of years on the complexities involved in transitioning co-workers from their preferred methods of interaction to online collaborative platforms, and I like you all too much to put you through something like that. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Amr<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Amr ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I personally don't mind having a GAC-GNSO CG Wiki, particularly with information sharing, progress updating and transparency in mind ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So if you mean that we need to have it as a viewer-friendly public archive, I don't think anyone would mind .. but if you are proposing it as a collaborative platform for content editing by group members, this is what I was challenging, out of my experience with the GAC ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I stand to be corrected if my above interpretations are not accurate .. But again, to be clear, I'm not against having a Wiki page in principle, and very much welcome the initiative !!</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to hearing what others think ..</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--Manal </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Amr Elsadr<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, February 24, 2014 10:28 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org">GAC-GNSO-CG@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Gac-gnso-cg] GAC-GNSO CG Wiki</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>I was hoping we could revisit a recommendation I made during the first couple of meetings we had, and that was to have a wiki space for our group. With the increasing number of documents this Consultation Group (CG) is drafting, I believe it would be helpful to have them all available in one location for easy access. For example, the four documents and one PPT circulated by Manal regarding tomorrow’s meeting in addition to this group’s draft charter. It’s a lot easier to use than rummaging through an inbox or folder looking for the latest draft of a specific document.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>There is an added benefit to having a personal wiki space for this CG, and that is the ability to share our work with our respective community members, and keep them updated on the progress that we make.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Using a wiki page doesn’t pose a technical difficulty (incase that is a concern). In my (limited) experience, ICANN staff have done most of the heavy lifting when it comes to keeping them updated. They pretty much arrange the different pages on a wiki and post stuff according to the group’s requests to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Check this wiki page for the <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliteration+of+Contact+Information+PDP+Home"><span style='color:purple'>Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP</span></a> as an example. It’s a relatively new PDP WG, so the page hasn’t been loaded with lots of stuff, but it should give you all an idea on how it works.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>As you can see, there is a menu on the left side of the page with links to useful stuff like the PDP WG’s charter, the members list, relevant studies to the PDP/background documents as well as a link to proposed questions the WG will be tackling in the near future, with each question having its respective dedicated wiki page with updates on progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>I imagine that having a wiki for this group would help our GAC members share updates with the rest of the GAC, and a question on this has already been brought up during the last GNSO Council meeting. I figure that since this mailing list is already a publicly archived one, it wouldn’t hurt to have a space where our work is accessible in a more viewer-friendly manner.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Let me know what you think.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Amr<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>