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<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Thanks again Mikey ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Responses inline below ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Mike O'Connor
[<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">mailto:mike@haven2.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cgs@icann.org">gac-gnso-cgs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] revised version of the slide deck -- still
plenty oftime for revisions before our next meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 15, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Many thanks Mikey .. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">A couple of remarks: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think slide 6 is
supposed to replace slide 5, right? i.e. slide 5 will be deleted, right?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">right — i just left it in so you would have something
to compare my new one to.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#943634">[MI]: Thanks .. Looks perfect to me .. you can kindly delete
slide 5 on our final version ..<br>
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</span><span style="color:#943634"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I believe we should be
adding the Wiki url, unless this is going to be the one added to reference the
charter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">yep. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#943634">[MI]: Great .. Thanks ..</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C00000"><br>
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</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Finally, on slide 6, I
think the 2<sup>nd</sup> and 3<sup>rd</sup> bullets are redundant .. I suggest
keeping the 2<sup>nd</sup> and deleting the 3<sup>rd</sup> , don’t know
what you and other colleagues think .. I think the GNSO and GAC providing
feedback, implicitly means they approve the new version reflecting such
feedback .. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">ah! another difference in the way we work. in my
working-group experience the feedback goes back to the working group, they
digest it and produce a new draft for approval. that’s why i split
the two. i’m learning a lot. :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">i’m fine either way. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#943634">[MI]: I'm learning a lot too </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#943634">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#943634"> .. but you have a point .. although
we don't have a similar formal way of approval, we can still propose 2
deadlines one for providing any comments, and in case of any, another for final
review after incorporating all the comments .. Does this sound reasonable? We can
discuss and finalize on our upcoming conference call .. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">by the way, i’ve drafted a motion for the Council to
approve the charter in Singapore (i’ve attached it to this note) —
our Council deadline for motions is coming up tomorrow and i plan to submit it
in time to get on our agenda for Singapore. it’s easier to amend or
pull a motion off our agenda than it is to put one on. so if
there’s “big change required” feedback, i’ll just pull
it. Amr, you want to be the seconder? between the two of us, we can
handle any amendments that come up and Jonathan can watch over both of us.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#943634">[MI]:
Thanks for sharing .. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">And finally to answer your question </span>“what’s
the goal for having the charter approved by the GAC and the GNSO?” <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
personally believe that:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s important
to consult at each milestone, as indicated in our charter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s important
to make sure both the GAC and the GNSO agree to the problem definition, the
described objectives and the expected deliverables</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Having everyone agree
on each significant step means that they will be ready to adopt our
deliverables at the end (some sort of early engagement ;) )</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">sorry — i worded that question really badly. i
was really just looking for a target date for approval of the charter. i
think your goals are fantastic, but all i was going for was something to
replace my little “??” in the target-date line on the slide. <o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Not sure what my GAC colleagues think, but I don’t think
we will receive the sought feedback/approval from the GAC at the meeting in
Singapore, that’s why it was suggested to agree on a deadline ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">yep, that’s where i was trying to go too. sorry
about that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#943634">[MI]:
Sorry to have misunderstood your question .. I believe there was some
suggestion to allow for 2 weeks after Singapore meeting but, I'm sorry, I can't
recall whose suggestion it was .. On the call we can agree on proposed
dates from our side, one for comments (for example 2 weeks??) and one for
review (maybe one more week??) ..<br>
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</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I hope I was able to address your points .. if not please let me
know ..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">yes — all good here.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#943634">[MI]: Great ..</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">mikey<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Kind Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">--Manal</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cgs@icann.org">gac-gnso-cgs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gac-gnso-cg] revised version of the slide deck -- still plenty
oftime for revisions before our next meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">here’s a next-version of the slides. the big
unanswered question that we probably can take into the meeting in Singapore is
“what’s the goal for having the charter approved by the GAC and the
GNSO?” we might want to have a proposed answer to that question.
on the GNSO side, i bet we could approve it in Singapore. GAC
folks? what do you think? too fast?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">anyway, here’s the deck. feel free to revise/comment.
Manal, i left the slide you added in the deck, followed by my revised
version in the black font. see if you like my version.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">mikey<o:p></o:p></p>
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