<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Manal, you are correct with regards to the timing in relation to public comment periods. The PDP Manual prescribes a minimum timeframe for the public comment period on the Preliminary Issue Report as well as the Initial Report (at least 30 days). Furthermore, it also provides a minimum of 35 days for GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies to provide input to the WG at an early stage of the process and this same timeframe is usually also applied in relation to input requested from other SO/ACs. However, as Manal notes, in instances where more time has been requested, this has always been granted, at least as far as I can remember. Also, it may be worth reminding everyone of the main objective of each of these opportunities for public comment / input during the course of a PDP:</div><ul><li>Public comment period on the Preliminary Issue Report: Input focused on whether there is any information missing or incorrect in the Issue Report and whether the GNSO Council should initiate a policy development process on this topic.</li><li>Request for input by the PDP WG at an early stage of the deliberations: what information or views should be considered by the PDP WG, what potential solutions / recommendations could be considered, what supporting data is available to support the SO/AC views.</li><li>Public comment period on Initial Report: input on proposed recommendations by PDP WG and/or specific questions / issues flagged by the PDP WG.</li><li>Public comment period on adopted GNSO recommendations prior to ICANN Board consideration: support or non-support for recommendations; was anything missed as part of the WG deliberations that should be brought to the Board's attention when considering the recommendations. </li></ul><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Marika</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday 23 September 2014 10:24<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Suzanne Radell <<a href="mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov">SRadell@ntia.doc.gov</a>>, Olof Nordling <<a href="mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org">olof.nordling@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Food for thought ..<br></div><div><br></div><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Many thanks Suzanne for sharing your thoughts .. Let me just make sure I got both points right ..
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Do you mean we need to discuss the below features described by Olof without proposing a solution from our side? If yes, is this because you do not want to preempt the discussion? It’s a valid point, although
I thought a proposal would serve as a suggested way forward should we not get the feedback we wish for (the survey has already sought suggestions on how to improve the current mechanisms to make them more useful as well as suggestions for new mechanisms) ..
In all cases, we can share the survey results at the very beginning, discuss them thoroughly, seek feedback and suggestions and leave any proposals we may agree upon as a fall back scenario should we not receive real-time feedback, does this make sense?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regarding your second point on</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> timelines on the GNSO’s side, I fully agree this needs further discussion, but I initially understood from our last call, and I stand to be corrected,
that, in principle, the timing is flexible should the GNSO receive an indication that more time is needed / GAC input is expected .. But of course, we can discuss the necessary details, if this is what you mean ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Looking forward to further discuss on the call today ..
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">--Manal</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> Suzanne Radell [<a href="mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov">mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov</a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 22, 2014 10:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Manal Ismail; Olof Nordling; <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Food for thought ..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi all, and thanks to Olof and Manal for their input. I do think these options need to be considered, hopefully as a contribution to the GAC-GNSO discussions in LA. We really do need to get at the bottom or
heart of the problems highlighted by the survey results, and hearing from our colleagues directly as to what mechanisms/means they would find useful will be a good first step. I’d also like us to explore the timelines on the GNSO’s side for comments on Issues
Reports, as that basically sets the GAC’s parameters. Cheers, Suz <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 22, 2014 4:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Olof Nordling; <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Food for thought ..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear Olof ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cannot agree more with the three potentially desirable features you described below ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have high hopes that a joint committee, with participation from both sides and the key role played by the GNSO liaison to the GAC will do this necessary interfacing ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Keeping an open and responsive channel with the GNSO, and
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="color:#1F497D">Throttling, streamlining, prioritizing and following-up on GNSO requests to the GAC <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Looking forward to our discussion tomorrow ..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> Olof Nordling [<a href="mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org">mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org</a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 22, 2014 7:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> Manal Ismail; <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Food for thought ..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear Manal and all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for these useful thoughts! I’ve tried to think as well, based on the survey outcome, but I only came up with three potentially desirable features of a future GNSO briefing vehicle to the GAC:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Streamlined – rather a single vehicle/channel than multiple, in order to get an overview, and relatively frequent (monthly or fortnightly)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Prioritized – yes, we’ll have to find a way to identify and highlight the developments/threads with clear public policy aspects<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Digestible – concise short overview, quick read, with headlines and links to background docs etc (of which there are plenty)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thus, rather general points, but perhaps useful input to the discussion. If others think likewise, we’ll then just (!) have to consider how on earth to realize something like that…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">All the best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Olof<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Gac-gnso-cg] Food for thought ..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Dear All ..<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">As agreed on our last call, we need to discuss the PDP track and the remaining options of the day-to-day track in light of 2 recent developments:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Having the GNSO liaison to the GAC onboard<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Results of the GAC survey<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I believe we concluded from the survey that the problem is not lack of information but too much information that is sometimes overlooked, not properly channeled, streamlined and/or prioritized on the GAC agenda .. Accordingly I believe
our focus should be how to fully utilize existing awareness mechanisms to ensure they achieve their full objectives .. Such mechanisms are also the corner stone connecting both tracks day-to-day and PDP.. Upon receipt those should trigger either:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Day-to-day cooperation on the topic under discussion, in terms of: conf call, webinar, further email exchanges, including it on the agenda of the following face-to-face meeting, etc … or<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>PDP exchange in terms of: whether or not the GAC is interested in the topic, whether or not the GAC intends to provide input, etc …<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I assume those mechanisms are all listed in the survey, namely:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Announcements from GNSO Secretariat<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Requests for input from GNSO PDP Working Groups<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Participation in GNSO Working Groups<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>GAC Early Engagement Policy Documents (<a href="https://gacweb.icann.org/dispaly/gacweb/GAC+Early+Engagement+Policy+Documents">https://gacweb.icann.org/dispaly/gacweb/GAC+Early+Engagement+Policy+Documents</a>)
– <b>monthly</b> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>GNSO Background Briefings (e.g. <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/background-briefing-13mar14-en.pdf">
http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/background-briefing-13mar14-en.pdf</a>) –
<b>issued monthly</b>?<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">6.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Policy Update (<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/update-2014-02-20-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/update-2014-02-20-en</a>) –
<b>monthly</b> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">7.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
</span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span>Policy Update Webinar (takes place prior to every ICANN meeting) –
<b>3 times/year</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
I believe the last 2 cover more than just the GNSO .. So maybe we should focus our discussions on the first 5 above noting their frequency, chronological order if applicable, receiving party, etc … ..
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
I wonder whether any of the above mechanisms is relevant and can be highlight on the ‘Issue Scoping’ flow chart (attached)..
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
I have provided some comments on the day-to-day document (also attached marked in track changes) ..
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
Appreciate your thoughts in preparation for our upcoming call ..<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
I have to admit that I did not have the chance to discuss with Jonathan in advance, and have sent directly to the group for the sake of time as we will be having our call shortly after the weekend ..
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
So Jonathan, please provide your views freely whether with or against <span style="font-family:Wingdings">
J</span> .. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">
--Manal <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></span></body></html>