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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Re-sending on behalf of Suzanne (and
myself </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'>) as the below message did not get through ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--Manal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Suzanne Radell
[mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ntfy-gac-gnso-cg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> FW: [Ntfy-gac-gnso-cg] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation: GAC GNSO
Consultation Meeting, Tuesday 18 November 2014 at 14:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hi everyone, as per my email exchange with Manal, we both thought
the whole group might be interested in it, so I'm sending it along. With
apologies as well for not being able to join you tomorrow. I am
looking forward to your thoughts on this chain. Best regards, Suz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Suzanne Murray Radell </span></em><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Senior Policy Advisor</span></em><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>NTIA/Office of
International Affairs</span></em><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>PH: 202-482-3167</span></em><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>FX: 202-482-1865</span></em></span></i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Manal
Ismail [manal@tra.gov.eg]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 17, 2014 5:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Suzanne Radell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mason Cole; jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ntfy-gac-gnso-cg] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation: GAC GNSO
Consultation Meeting, Tuesday 18 November 2014 at 14:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>I'm fine with either .. Maybe forwarding the whole thread is
better to ensure everyone is on the same page ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>--Manal<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:01 AM, "Suzanne Radell" <<a
href="mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov">SRadell@ntia.doc.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks again, Manal, for coming
back to me prior to tomorrow’s call. Shall I just forward this entire
chain to the whole group? Or just my email to you and Jonathan?
Just let me know and I can get it out later this evening. Cheers, Suz</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> Manal Ismail [<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 16, 2014 1:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Suzanne Radell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mason Cole; <a href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Ntfy-gac-gnso-cg] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation: GAC GNSO
Consultation Meeting, Tuesday 18 November 2014 at 14:00 UTC</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dear Suzanne ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks again for sharing your
thoughts and sorry you won’t be able to join the coming call ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I fully agree with you that GAC
colleagues, and even the whole ICANN community, are fully utilized by the IANA
transition and ICANN accountability processes and that we have to be very
specific in what we ask for in order to expect responses ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>To me, triggering
the discussion and encouraging GAC responses, I believe, should be through
sharing a concrete proposal (well-thought through by the group, including GAC
members with GNSO experience like yourself and Mark) with specific questions
that we may have, or may suggest, to brainstorm on the proposal .. I also
believe that, optimally, this should be shared well in advance of the Singapore
meeting .. Such discussion may end by adopting the proposal as is, agreeing to
the proposal with certain amendments, or proposing a completely different
approach or mechanism .. but to trigger the discussion we have to have
something on the table ..</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Having said that, I’m flexible and
willing to follow any approach we agree upon .. I fully agree with your
proposal that “</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>we could consider providing
more concrete information and/or context by using a straw man as a means of
testing some of the concepts we’re discussing</span><span style='color:black'>”
.. but I thought a pre-requisite to this testing would be agreeing on the
details of what we intend to test .. So allow me to seek further clarification
on how can we demonstrate this quick-look Triage committee mechanism in
practice ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Let me also share with you what
Marika shared (off-list for the time being), the attached ‘GNSO Issue Report
Request Form’ and the ‘</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>ccNSO
Triage Committee process’ with further information at: <a
href="http://ccnso.icann.org/about/council/decisions.htm" target="_blank">http://ccnso.icann.org/about/council/decisions.htm</a>
.. I believe both documents, in addition to the GAC one-pagers available at: </span><span
style='color:black'><a
href="https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Early+Engagement+Policy+Documents"
target="_blank">https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Early+Engagement+Policy+Documents</a>,
</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>may help in coming up with
the information the GAC needs to decide whether a certain issue, to be
discussed by the GNSO, is of interest .. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>I do see your
point on triggers at the GNSO side, and look forward to hearing their view on
this .. Meanwhile I don’t think this would override the need for a quick-look
mechanism, as the GAC may still receive multiple requests from the GNSO side
that need to be prioritized, or have I missed something? </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Finally, please
feel free to share on the list for the sake of time and for the sake of making
sure we are all on the same page before the call, particularly that you won’t
be on this call and I’m keen to have your views considered, as early as
possible, to make sure we’re progressing ..</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Kind Regards</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>--Manal</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> Suzanne Radell [<a href="mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov">mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 14, 2014 1:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mason Cole<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Ntfy-gac-gnso-cg] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation: GAC GNSO
Consultation Meeting, Tuesday 18 November 2014 at 14:00 UTC</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>I should have thought of that myself, Manal, so thank you and I'm
now cc'ing Mason on this message. Cheers, Suz</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Suzanne Murray Radell </span></em><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Senior Policy Advisor</span></em><br>
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Ismail [<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Suzanne Radell<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ntfy-gac-gnso-cg] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation: GAC GNSO
Consultation Meeting, Tuesday 18 November 2014 at 14:00 UTC</span><span
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color:black'>Many thanks for sharing your thoughts .. It's a bit late for me to
provide an equally thorough response to your email, but I'm wondering whether
it would be ok with you if we cc Mason on this .. I think Jonathan is quite
busy and has been away for some time .. I believe Mason may be in a position to
provide a GNSO view on this, as I'm worried we might not hear from Jonathan in
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On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:35 PM, "Suzanne Radell" <<a
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Jonathan and Manal, before
going out to the whole group, I wanted to send along a heads up that I will not
be able to join next Tuesday’s call as I’ll be on a panel that morning.
As I was called away to an unexpected meeting for the last call, I’m mindful of
becoming woefully behind. I did want to share an impression from the
notes or recap of the most recent call, which is that we may either be at or
nearing a point in our group deliberations where we are further ahead of our
respective communities than we might like to be. I’m fairly confident
that the near silence we’re hearing on the GAC side is not at all due to
disinterest; rather, I think a majority of our colleagues don’t know what it is
we want from them. Not to mention the fact that the two highest
priorities on everyone’s plate right now are the IANA transition and ICANN
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So I’m wondering if we could
consider providing more concrete information and/or context by using a straw
man as a means of testing some of the concepts we’re discussing. For
example, wouldn’t the concept of a triage committee for the GAC have more
resonance is we could demonstrate how it would actually work (e.g. vice
theoretically) in practice? And I remain very keen to know whether, on
the GNSO side, we could reach agreement on some triggers that would be used at
the outset (e.g. at the time of a request for an Issues Report) to determine
whether to engage the GAC at that moment in time? My proposals for near
term testing in terms of triggers would be anything related to international
treaties that governments sign and national laws. If whatever the GNSO
determined might require a PDP did touch on treaties or national laws, would it
make sense to have an exchange between the GNSO and the GAC from the
beginning? This isn’t happening now, and the assumption seems to be that
it’s up to the GAC to provide comments when the Issues Report is actually
posted. We have previous examples where this should have happened, but
did not (e.g. IGO-INGO protections). The counter argument could be made
that the GNSO could have easily engaged the GAC on its own initiative, since
this particular PDP was initiated after the GAC had provided advice. We
are arguably/hopefully trying to avoid these situations in the future, which
suggests some change in our respective work cultures/habits. </span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I look forward to your thoughts
on this, as well as on any other work I could/should be taking on at the
moment. In terms of preparing for Singapore, I also think we should
consider a slightly different approach to updating the GAC and the GNSO.
Quite candidly, I don’t know how the GNSO updates are structured, but the GAC
exchanges aren’t triggering exchanges per se; it’s the Consultation Group
providing an update. So I’d like to explore some alternatives with you
before proposing ideas to the rest of the group. Thanks in advance, and
best regards, Suz</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Suzanne
Murray Radell</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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