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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks Ana, Suzanne & Mark for your responses ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I hope the agenda circulated earlier addresses both sides of the
discussion:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With respect to new
PDPs, GAC early input and the handling of multiple PDPs running simultaneously <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With
respect to ongoing PDPs, more effective and timely engagement with GNSO colleagues
to resolve current issues</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to discussing this on our upcoming calls .. Yet I
would like to remind ourselves that we will not be getting into the details of specific
issues but rather how to facilitate discussion of those specific issues, in
light of the existence of this consultation group, the GNSO Liaison, the GAC
counterpart, both leaderships and support staff, and through any existing or new
mechanisms as suggested by the group ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>--Manal</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Suzanne Radell
[mailto:SRadell@ntia.doc.gov] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 26, 2014 5:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> CARVELL, Mark<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gac-gnso-cg@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org; Manal Ismail; Mason
Cole; Brian Winterfeldt<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Gac-gnso-cg] MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation
Groupteleconference Tuesday 18 November 2014 1400 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>As far as I know, the PDP WG has drafted a proposed letter to the
GAC that is expected to be approved by the GNSO Council. I defer to Mason
as to the status of the letter. Once it is approved and sent, I expect we
will have a much clearer idea of what questions this PDP WG has for the
GAC. Cheers, Suz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Suzanne Murray Radell </span></em><i><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Senior Policy Advisor</span></em><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>NTIA/Office of
International Affairs</span></em><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>PH: 202-482-3167</span></em><br>
<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>FX: 202-482-1865</span></em></span></i><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> CARVELL, Mark [Mark.Carvell@Culture.gsi.gov.uk]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Suzanne Radell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gac-gnso-cg@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org; Manal Ismail; Mason
Cole; Brian Winterfeldt<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Gac-gnso-cg] MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation
Groupteleconference Tuesday 18 November 2014 1400 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Suz </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many thanks and I agree on all points: we should be
transitioning now to more effective and timely engagement with GNSO colleagues
on resolving problems occurring in current PDPs that directly concern the GAC
members and observers.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Is there a summary available of the UDRP/URS process questions
for IGOs and INGOs that can be circulated to the GAC in order to get us up to
speed on this? </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best regards</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mark </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mark Carvell</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>United Kingdom Representative on the GAC </span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Suzanne Radell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 November 2014 20:11<br>
<b>To:</b> Manal Ismail; Mason Cole; Brian Winterfeldt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gac-gnso-cg@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation Groupteleconference
Tuesday 18 November 2014 1400 UTC</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi all, I wanted to weigh in briefly on this exchange to both
volunteer to serve as a contact on the GAC side for Mason (happy to be a part
of a larger GAC-GNSO working group, should a decision be taken to create such a
group), and to support the use of the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection
Mechanisms PDP as an initial test case. I do agree that using this
particular PDP would not address the “early engagement” aspect of
our work, but having read the transcripts from the two most recent meetings of
this particular PDP WG, I do think there are some areas identified in their
work that we can easily/constructively clarify through our new
mechanisms. </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The transcripts reinforce the value of having Mason serve as the
GNSO liaison to the GAC, as this particular group is raising/has raised issues
and questions that Mason’s new role can provide assistance with. To
cite just one example, questions were raised by members of the PDP WG on both
the November 13 and November 19 calls as to which IGOs they should be reaching
out to. If we had alerted Mason to the GAC’s approach (e.g. GAC
Chair, me and the IGO coalition) to resolving the outstanding issues we
identified in LA, then Mason would have been able to update the PDP WG on the
19<sup>th</sup>. I have also noted that this PDP WG is looking into the
issue of legal immunity for IGOs, with some discussion of how individual
governments address the matter nationally. This seems to me to be an
issue where direct exchanges would be helpful to their work.</span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Finally, it does seem as if we’re all leaning toward an
informal lunch get together in Singapore, so that’s good to know for
planning purposes. We might also want to consider inviting some members
of the IGO-INGO PDP WG to join, as we could possibly clear the air on some
outstanding issues.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best regards to all, Suz</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Suzanne Murray Radell</span></i><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Senior Policy Advisor, NTIA/OIA</span></i><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:sradell@ntia.doc.gov">sradell@ntia.doc.gov</a></span></i><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>202-482-3167</span></i><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Manal Ismail<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mason Cole; Brian Winterfeldt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a>; <a
href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation
Groupteleconference Tuesday 18 November 2014 1400 UTC</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many thanks Brian and Mason for sharing your thoughts ..</span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I fully agree with Brian that we should not continue discussing
early engagement in the abstract only and fully agree that the IGO-INGO
Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms PDP may be a good case to test engagement
and collaboration between the GAC and GNSO .. But I also note that this will
not be testing neither EARLY engagement nor the handling of simultaneous PDPs
in terms of prioritization and streamlining .. However, we can still do and
benefit from both:</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Use the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms PDP as a
test case for GAC-GNSO collaboration, where views of both constituencies are
different</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-</span><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Agree on a mechanism (quick-look, Triage committee, …etc)
that would change the pattern of GAC engagement, maximizing it at the earliest
stages </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can see an important and different role for Mason to play in
both .. It's also good to know that you agree that there may be instances where
the GNSO might know upfront that GAC input would be necessary .. </span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I do apologize for the delay in coming back with the name of a
counterpart for Mason from the GAC side .. As mentioned earlier, Olof and I
have already conveyed this request to the GAC leadership but have not yet heard
back from them .. As you all know, too many important and urgent things are
ongoing simultaneously .. I will send them a reminder and hope to get back to
you soonest .. Meanwhile if you already know GAC colleagues who are interested
it would be good to know who they are .. I can also cc them on my reminder to
the GAC leadership .. </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I fully agree to having a face-to-face in Singapore .. and yes,
we can try an informal meeting over lunch this time .. A 6:30 pm meeting on the
Sun. did not find much participants in London .. We can also try to keep it
simple and flexible .. One option may be that each one grabs his/her lunch and
we gather in a room allocated for our meeting .. </span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Looking forward to hearing views of other colleagues ..</span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>--Manal</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mason Cole<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Winterfeldt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a>; <a
href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation
Groupteleconference Tuesday 18 November 2014 1400 UTC</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Brian --</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Many thanks for this note.
Very helpful.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Speaking in my capacity as
liaison, let me give a short update: I've been in touch with several GAC
members interested in the subject of curative rights mechanisms for IGOs/INGOs
(as I was directed by the council to do) and am seeking the clarification the
council is looking for. You're right that it's a good test case, though
please note not EXACTLY one, as my involvement has started well after the PDP
commenced. I anticipate that for future PDPs, I will contact the GAC at
the issues report phase, or otherwise as early as possible.</span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>It would be tremendously
beneficial for me to have someone in the GAC with whom I could interface
day-to-day. If you know of interested persons, I'm very happy to speak
with them.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I think a face-to-face in
Singapore would be a very productive use of time. Thanks for suggesting
it.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Best --</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Mason</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Nov 21, 2014, at 1:49 PM,
Winterfeldt, Brian J. wrote:</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Dear All,</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I want to take this opportunity to share a few thoughts on our
ongoing discussions. I agree that we cannot and should not continue to
discuss early engagement in the abstract only. In addition, I agree that
there is room for the GNSO to take on a more proactive role in early engagement
of the GAC. A clearly defined set of triggers on the GNSO side is
certainly a possibility. While it is true that the GNSO would not want to
decide for the GAC in all cases whether an issue is deserving of the GAC’s
attention, there will most certainly be instances where the GNSO might know
upfront that GAC input would be necessary, such as issues on which the GAC has
provided advice in the past and issues that unambiguously relate to treaties or
national laws.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>By way of example, discussion arose<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>during the November 13, 2014 GNSO
Council meeting concerning the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms
PDP Working Group Letter sent to Mason as GNSO Liaison to GAC. In the
letter, the WG is proactively seeking Mason’s assistance in engaging the
GAC on certain issues raised by the GAC’s Los Angeles Communiqué, namely,
discrepancies between the GAC advice and the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>directives
contained in the Working Group Charter. As I understand it, Mason is
awaiting further instruction on how to proceed. This seems to me to be a
great opportunity to refine and test the mechanisms we have been discussing for
engagement and collaboration between the GAC and GNSO.</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>In addition, there is one item that we did not discuss during the
call this week but that I believe we should revisit – a GAC point person
to serve as Mason’s counterpart for day-to-day coordination. I may
know one or two people who may be interested. </span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>In terms of planning for Singapore, I think it would be beneficial
to have a face-to-face meeting of this group, perhaps in an informal setting
over lunch. We can invite other members of our constituent groups along
in an effort to generate greater support for the work of the CG. In a
smaller, interactive setting, we may be able pinpoint more precisely the type
and amount of information necessary for effective collaboration. I would
be happy to reach out to Glen offline to determine the feasibility of planning
the lunch.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thank you in advance for your consideration. I welcome your
feedback on the above items.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Best regards,</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Brian</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
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color:#83A6BD'>Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP</span></b><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.orgOn">gac-gnso-cg-bounces@icann.orgOn</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Behalf OfTerri Agnew<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, November
18, 2014 5:34:26 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:gac-gnso-cg@icann.org">gac-gnso-cg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Gac-gnso-cg] MP3
recording GAC / GNSO Consultation Group teleconference Tuesday 18 November 2014
1400 UTC</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Dear All,<br>
<br>
Please find the MP3 recording of the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>GAC / GNSO Consultation Group<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>teleconference
held on Tuesday 18 November 2014 at 1400 UTC at:</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-20141118-en.mp3"
target="_blank">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-20141118-en.mp3</a></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <span
class=apple-style-span>On page: </span><br>
<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov</a></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:blue'> </span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The recordings and
transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</span></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</a></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:blue'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Attendees:</span></u></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Government Advisory Committee</span></span></u><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Manal Ismail – co-chair<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>–</span><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Egypt</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Ana Neves, Portugal</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>GNSO Council</span></u><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Brian Winterfeldt,</span><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Councilor</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>David Cake, Vice Chair</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>GNSO Liaison to the GAC:</span></u><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Mason Cole</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Apology:</span></u></span><span
class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span></span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Amr Elsadr, Councilor</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Suzanne Radell, US</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Avri Doria, Councillor</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Jonathan Robinson, Chair</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN Staff:</span></u></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Marika Konings</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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color:black'> Marika Konings:Welcome to the GAC-GNSO CG meeting of
18 November 2014</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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