[Gnso-bylaws-dt] Final Call: Guidelines for Joint Consultation on Initiation of a Special IFR

Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
Fri Oct 25 07:39:14 UTC 2019


Thanks Heather and team!

No more issues from my side. A big support re the Saturday night bar 
approach!

Safe travels to all

Wolf-Ulrich


Am 25.10.2019 um 09:31 schrieb Heather Forrest:
> Dear DT colleagues,
>
> A quick report/update/reminder, as I'm conscious of email (not to 
> mention document) fatigue:
>
> 1. I provided an update to the GNSO Council in its October meeting 
> yesterday on the package of Guidelines and Motion Templates we have 
> prepared. Councillors have access to all documents except the 18.12 
> Guideline (which incorporates the Joint Consultation process, as 
> discussed in the email chain below). There were no major queries. GNSO 
> Chair Keith Drazek profusely thanked the DT for all of its hard work.
>
> 2. Don't forget to review the final proposed 18.12 Guideline mentioned 
> in the email chain below by the end of today (Friday). Thanks very 
> much to Maxim, whose minor grammatical edits appear in the document. 
> If you run out of time, there is still an opportunity to flag issues 
> with your respective GNSO Councillors, who can post issues on the 
> Council list and discuss in Montreal.
>
> 3. Unless there are clearly articulated objections, staff and I will 
> submit the 18.12 document and a draft motion to Council this Sunday 
> for the Montreal meeting document deadline. Recall that ICANN legal is 
> still reviewing; any issues that they or any DT member spots between 
> now and Council's vote in Montreal will be addressed.
>
> 4. Please consider adding to your respective SG/C agendas a briefing 
> on the DT's work for the upcoming GNSO Council vote in Montreal. 
> Julie, Ariel and I are developing a slide deck based on the slides I 
> used to update Council yesterday. If you would like me to join you to 
> help brief your SG/C, I'll be very happy to do that - just let me 
> know. Ariel and Julie will flag the slides to your attention when they 
> land in our inboxes next week.
>
> 5. Last but not least, a celebration of the Annex D survivors' club - 
> if you are in Montreal on Saturday night and would like to get 
> together to collectively drown our sorrows over the complexity of 
> Annex D, Ariel, Julie and I will be propping up seats at the 
> Intercontinental Hotel bar at approx 7pm.
>
> With best wishes and thanks for being such amazing colleagues 
> throughout this arduous but tremendously worthwhile effort,
>
> Heather
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:26 PM Heather Forrest 
> <haforrestesq at gmail.com <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Huge thanks to Ariel for taking the lead on finalising the Joint
>     Consultation Guidelines.
>
>     For those who were unable to attend the call on Monday with the
>     ccNSO Guidelines Review Committee, I took away from that meeting
>     that we were all comfortable with the substance of the Joint
>     Consultation Guidelines. The call mainly focused on the next steps
>     and logistics, and in particular whether and how there would be
>     some sort of symbolic joint signing in Montreal by the two
>     Councils. What did come to me as a surprise was that the ccNSO
>     potentially may not vote on this in Montreal - only a surprise to
>     me because it was Katrina and Bart who had, months ago, proposed
>     the timeline, and that's what we in the DT have been working to since.
>
>     After follow-up conversations with Ariel, Julie and the GNSO
>     Council leadership team, I feel quite comfortable in proposing
>     that the DT remains on track to submit both the Joint Consultation
>     Guideline and the GNSO-specific guideline of which the Joint
>     Consultation Guideline is a part in time for the Montreal Council
>     meeting document deadline. That deadline is this Sunday 2359 UTC.
>
>     You may recall that David was initially tasked during our final
>     review efforts to look over 18.12 - he did so, raised a few
>     queries to the DT list, but then suggested that it be parked for
>     yet one more final review once the Joint Consultation Guidelines
>     were completed. David's queries have since been addressed by
>     Ariel's revisions, and in the meantime she is proposing some
>     further revisions to actually de-complicate the process. When we
>     first started our work, we agreed to try out using the GNSO Input
>     Process (the "GIP") as a vehicle for the GNSO to weigh in on the
>     triggering events of a Special IFR. As we have learned along the
>     way, and come to better understand 18.12 and the Joint
>     Consultation Guidelines, it seems to me on careful discussion with
>     Ariel and Julie (and David, whose questions in final review quite
>     rightly provoked further consideration) that the GIP, which relies
>     on a Council member filing a request for action, isn't actually
>     what we need for 18.12, because the triggering event for 18.12
>     isn't a request from a Councillor, but rather the Bylaws
>     themselves and the escalation and failure to resolve a performance
>     issue under the IANA contract. No "request" from a Councillor is
>     needed to kick off the GNSO's provision of input. That said, there
>     are some very useful things in the GIP, once one leaves aside the
>     need for making a request, such as forming a small team, the team
>     preparing a report for Council's consideration, etc, that serve
>     this process well and do not conflict with the Bylaws 18.12
>     provisions.
>
>     I note for the record David's earlier remarks on the substance and
>     interpretation of 18.12(a)(i)-(iv) and their relationship to 18.3
>     and a regular IFRT. I am not convinced that we can resolve the
>     possible differences in interpretation of these provisions until
>     the event actually occurs (hopefully never), but I also take
>     comfort in the fact that ICANN Legal is reviewing each Guideline,
>     and to the extent that we have made a material error in judgment,
>     we hope that can be pointed out to us. Further, I take comfort in
>     the fact that each of these Guidelines is just that -a Guideline,
>     not a compulsory rule imposed on the GNSO Council. If
>     circumstances require or warrant a different course of action or
>     timeline, Council has full freedom to be nimble.
>
>     I am mindful that the timing is now tight, and that we are all
>     rather exhausted (mentally, physically) by the enormous work
>     effort we have sustained in the DT since early this year. I
>     personally believe that the edits that Ariel will circulate to the
>     GNSO Guideline are uncontroversial, but I very much welcome
>     everyone on the DT to review. Remember that ICANN Legal is also
>     reviewing in the background, and will raise any concerns if these
>     arise. If we believe that more time is needed beyond this Friday
>     to finalise this last document, I can advise Council and the ccNSO
>     and we'll hold 18.12 back until Council's December meeting. Once
>     Ariel circulates the final proposed 18.12 Guideline, I will ask
>     that each DT member state by Friday their position - can be
>     one-on-one to me or to the group, as each prefers. The options
>     will be to sign-off on the Guideline and submit to Council or hold
>     back for more time for a further review and discussion.
>
>     Very best wishes,
>
>     Heather
>
>     On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:40 PM Ariel Liang <ariel.liang at icann.org
>     <mailto:ariel.liang at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>         Dear All,
>
>         Following the meeting with the ccNSO GRC on Monday, staff have
>         resolved the edits and comments on the Guidelines for Joint
>         Consultation on Initiation of a Special IFR:
>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NnaaoWKJWUu0Cw3pphuvT0wycmMIXhQmYyy0daPmnbI/edit?usp=sharing.
>
>
>         There have been no substantive changes on this document, so
>         please provide your final review by *_COB Friday, 25
>         October_*. The aim is to incorporate this document in the
>         whole package of guidelines for the GNSO Council to adopt at
>         ICANN66.
>
>         In addition, staff are in process revising the GNSO internal
>         guidelines for Section 18.12, as we have realized that the GIP
>         may be an ‘overkill’ in the process and has been overtaken by
>         events. More details will be provided when we circulate the
>         revised guidelines tomorrow.
>
>         Thank you!
>
>         Ariel
>
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