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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3">Adobe Chat Transcript for </font><b><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Wednesday</span></font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"> 31 August</font></b></u><b style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><u><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"> 2016<o:p></o:p></font></u></b></p>
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<span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> </span><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the GNSO Bylaws Implementation Drafting Team on Wednesday 31 August 2016 at 1300 UTC</span></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Meeting page: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/sRasAw">https://community.icann.org/x/sRasAw</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:Do need the help, Amr</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Sure Steve. Thanks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:we hear you Julie</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Many apologies. My phone died.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Dialing back in.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Please continue your conversation.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:Fine with me</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Darcy Southwell:Fine with me</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Sounds good.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:fine </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Peregrine:noted: weekly meetings for90 mins</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> steve metalitz:OK w me. re weekly calls </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Joining back in.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:I heard 90 minutes at this time each week -- correct?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> steve metalitz:Annex D is separate doc</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:am I having connection issues? I can't hear Steve </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:yes it's me sorry about that </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:what is our starting point? we go with the order of document?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:Correct Steve.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:There are also new processes in the operating procedures that the Council oversees, which do not involve the PDP, such as the GNSO Input Process.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:So the Council role has already expanded beyond its traditional role.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:RIght, that was my point Amr. Agree</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Also, Article X, section 3.7 refers to the Council Chair as the "GNSO Chair", so may be helpful in considering extra PDP activities.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:New Bylaws describe how PTI, CSC, IFR recommendations come from "Council". Was that something that CWG and CCWG had in our final reports?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@SteveDB: +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Very much agree with Steve. In any case, each type of motion on Council has different voting thresholds (adopting recs on consensus policies vs. initiating PDPs vs. non consensus policy recs). No reason
to assume that there is a de facto voting threshold we need to use.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:Although certainly willing to consider some creative decisionmaking alternatives, any alternative should respect the current power balance within the GNSO, including the role of the NCA's.. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> steve metalitz:Steve DB are you referring anything outside 17.3.d? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:16.3 mentions council too</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Steve: It occurs elsewhere.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:17.3 d Amendments to the CSC Charter shall not be effective unless ratified by the vote of a simple majority of each of the ccNSO and GNSO Councils pursuant to each such organizations’
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:Is this deadline realistic? I am a bit worried we might not be able to meet it.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: I have captured that as an action item in the notes. I will take that action.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Darcy Southwell:Yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:Yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Sounds right Steve.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: Per staff that is the intent of the charter. An implementation plan, but not development of the procedures. That can come after.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:so we just need to decide on implementation plan.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:that's a bit easier</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:The goal in setting the deadline was to have it completed by the date of the transition. The next Council meeting, which will consider our outout, is October 13th.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Just a bit. ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:no</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> steve metalitz:@Steve DB -- agree re safeguards built into EC thresholds. But we may wish to have additional safeguard.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Darcy Southwell:Even if we come up with Steve's proposed two rules, we still have to test them against each power to ensure they work. It may be that they generally work but that certain powers require a more specific
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@SteveDB: If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting coming up with principles to guide our work, which sounds good to me.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve DelBianco [GNSO - CSG]:It's a bit more than principles, Amr</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:No</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:Correct Steve</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: That is correct I believe. I can check. (no changes to Council structure in the GNSO Review)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Steve: I will check. I think not.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:I'm not sure how we would go about priotitizing things here. If Steve could provide examples on how this could be practically done, I'd be grateful.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Sorry. That was me. Got dropped off the call.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Steve DelBianco: This call was scheduled for 60 minutes. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Amr, we're dialing you bacl</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Peregrine:back</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Subsequent calls will be scheduled for 90 minutes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Amr is back on</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Edward Morris:Or an Inspection request</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:On the last action item, I don't think GNSO structural issues were addressed at all in the last review.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Amr: I think that is correct, but I will checking nonetheless.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:I'm fine to stay on for another 30 minutes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Darcy Southwell:I unfortunately have another committment today so have to drop </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Peregrine:@ Steve, and all, so confirmed same date and time for weekly meetings?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Perfect thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Farzaneh Badii:bye</div>
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