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<div>Let’s add that clarification during tomorrow’s call. </div>
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<div>Our primary goal tomorrow is getting to our “majority report” on voting thresholds in Council. </div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org">gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 3:45 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Steve Metalitz <<a href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Updated draft report for GNSO Bylaws DT (v2)<br>
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<div>May I ask that you clarify in the report that the addition is solely your opinion and not that of the drafting team? At the moment it is worded like a solution by the drafting team. I have made some edits in the document. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 28 September 2016 at 03:50, Metalitz, Steven <span dir="ltr">
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<div>Ed, you are welcome to mark up my edits as you wish and that can provide a basis for discussion Thursday. I am not going to withdraw any edits.<span class=""><br>
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<div class="h5"><b>From: </b>Edward Morris [<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net" target="_blank">egmorris1@toast.net</a>]<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 06:09 PM Pacific Standard Time<br>
<b>To: </b>matthew shears; <a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>; Metalitz, Steven<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Updated draft report for GNSO Bylaws DT (v2)<br>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">Steve,</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">My understanding is that this document is supposed to reflect past proceedings of this group. Some of your edits, including that highlighted by Matt, do not.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">If we are editing this document to reflect the approach we individually would like to take going forward then you can expect a complete edit by myself prior to the meeting on Thursday.
I will remove past nomenclature that received only minority support and include only that which received majority support during our past discussions.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">I would suggest that you remove your edits that do not reflect past proceedings and resubmit your new ideas in the form of policy proposals, as I did prior to our last meeting. If not,
everyone can expect to receive a document from me reflecting solely the majority positions as captured by straw polls through past meetings, as well a description of open issues. Minority reports, of course, will always be welcome.</span></div>
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<b>Sent</b>: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:50 AM<br>
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That is correct Matthew. In view of the short time left I propose this as the best option going forward. Looking forward to discussion.<br>
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<b>From: </b>matthew shears [<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" target="_blank">mshears@cdt.org</a>]<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 04:39 PM Pacific Standard Time<br>
<b>To: </b>Metalitz, Steven; <a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Updated draft report for GNSO Bylaws DT (v2)<br>
<p>Hi Steve</p>
<p>Thanks for the additional edits. W/r/t this one:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt">"<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">, the Drafting Team recommends that this report be forwarded by the GNSO council to the constituencies and stakeholder groups making
up the GNSO, and that these entites be asked to express, either individually or (preferably) collectively, their views and recommendations on the issues of<span> </span> who should speak for the GNSO with regard to the new powers, and how decisions should
be arrived at.<span>"</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt">I assume that this is your preferred outcome of a discussion yet to be had as I don't recall us agreeing this way forward (to the best of my recollection). </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt">Thanks.</p>
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<div>On 27/09/2016 22:33, Metalitz, Steven wrote:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thank you as always for a conscientious and thoughtful job of drafting. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Attached please find some suggested edits, mainly additions at the end of the draft (these are on top of Ed’s edits). Since we go through the options
if the Council acquires these powers, we should also lay out at least briefly the alternative route. And I believe we should also stress that the decision on this report is not the Council’s alone, and that the views of the constituencies and SGs must be
solicited. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Looking forward to discussing on the list and on our call on Thursday. </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of</b> matthew shears<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 25, 2016 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Updated draft report for GNSO Bylaws DT (v2)</span></p>
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<p>Thanks Steve for the drafting and Ed for the comments. I think these suggested edits add useful detail and reflect the diversity of views in the discussions that were had.</p>
<p>I would also note that, at least as I understood it, there was general agreement some calls back that the GNSO Council was the appropriate vehicle for speaking for he GNSO in the EC. While there have been views to the contrary, it seemed to me that the
majority of the group was still in favor of that approach. Its important that this general view is not portrayed differently in the report. This is reinforced by the straw poll that was taken and referred to later in the doc.</p>
<p>I also believe that while some (one or two?) DT members that suggested that it was not "sustainable" that the Council continue to take positions on non-policy matters, this is not the view of most I suspect. The suggested implication seems to infer that
the group as a whole had such concerns. Again, the straw poll would indicate otherwise. It is important that we not communicate that there is a general belief that the Council's role is unsustainable as that would be overstating the case.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Attached please find some suggested edits that I believe more accurately captures the majority view on some of the issues currently facing us. Hopefully between now and our next
meeting we'll be able to be a bit creative and sort some ways of bridging at least some of the gaps between us.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Great job of capturing the various perspectives on threshold levels. I'm quite optimistic and hopeful we'll be able to craft some sort of unified perspective on at least that
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<b>Sent</b>: Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:04 PM<br>
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<b>Subject</b>: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Updated draft report for GNSO Bylaws DT (v2)</span></p>
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Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 at 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Actions/Discussion Notes: Bylaws DT Meeting 21 September</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Per this action item --
<i>Staff will check to see if all references to GNSO accounted are for</i> – staff has undertaken the following analysis:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">First, it should be noted that the original request was for staff to analyze the new Bylaws for instances of the use of “Council” or “GNSO Council” in place of “GNSO”. That
analysis was provided previous and is attached again for reference. Staff found 17 references.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Second, the request from the meeting on 21 September is for staff to ensure that all references to “GNSO” in the Bylaws are accounted for. That analysis is attached. Staff
found 209 references (excluding in the table of contents). Of those references, 39 were in sections that only appear in the new Bylaws.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>> on behalf of
Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 at 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Actions/Discussion Notes: Bylaws DT Meeting 21 September</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thank you for that helpful correction. I’ve made the change to the wiki.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Kind regards,</span></p>
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<b>Date:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 4:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Actions/Discussion Notes: Bylaws DT Meeting 21 September</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">“Yes” votes: Farzaneh Badii,, David Maher, Ed Morris, Matthew Shears, Darcy Southwell, Amr Elsadr</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Straw Poll Results: 6 to 3 majority; significant minority did not agree.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>> on behalf of
Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 2:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Actions/Discussion Notes: Bylaws DT Meeting 21 September</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please see below the discussion notes captured by staff from the meeting on 21 September. These high-level notes are designed to help DT members navigate through the content
of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at:</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_GBIDT_DT-26-2343-3BMeetings&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=LFR8_SfCGhncxEWeUA3InUiBp944jw7-FauUyUKsvCw&s=h88T8NNyFIyZ4R-lbNHnfEmoLnBN5ciTw96u05FVrho&e=" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">https://community.icann.org/<wbr>display/GBIDT/DT+Meetings</span>[<wbr>community.icann.org]</a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Best regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Julie</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">GNSO Bylaws Implementation Drafting Team, Wednesday 21 September 2016 at 1300 UTC</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">1. Statements of Interest</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Action Item:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Although Drafting Teams are not specifically referenced in the GNSO Operating
Procedures, for the sake of consistency it will be helpful if DT members could provide SOIs if they have not already done so. Staff noted that these also are in a specific format that is different from those used in other groups, such as the CCWG-Accountability.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">2. DT to discuss draft report -- to facilitate discussion note the table on the last page that arrays the 3 decision types against two potential Council voting thresholds</span></i></p>
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<p>1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span> <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Staff will check to see if all references to GNSO accounted are for? Incorporate revisions from Steve M., except for reference to the number (84).</span></p>
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Steve DelBianco and staff will produce the next iteration of the draft Report for the DT to review and discuss.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Discussion Notes:</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Who</span></u></b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">should speak for the GNSO, as a Decisional Participant of the Empowered Community
– should it be GNSO Council or the GNSO stakeholder groups and constituencies? </span></u></p>
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Steve M.: Concern on the "Who" question is dealt with on page 2. Just before 2. How. References to GNSO Council and GNSO Supermajority. Of the references in the Bylaws. Our conclusions was that those Bylaws do suggest that the GNSO Council should act in
those 17 instances that were identified, not for other instances.</span></p>
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Steve D.: Need to record the level of support for the recommendations.</span></p>
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Ed Morris: On Steve M.'s edits, my perception was that we had majority agreement that the Council would speak for the GNSO in EC instances and others.</span></p>
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Steve D.: Section 11 and 11.2 -- the EC in the new Bylaws includes the GNSO, and in the definition in Section 11 includes, but is not limited to, the GNSO Council.</span></p>
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Amr: Not convinced that we have agreed on whether the Bylaws need to be amended in order for the Council to speak on behalf of the GNSO in areas other than on PDP. They do not say that the Council cannot do more than just managing the PDP. There are other
processes that the Council does manage.</span></p>
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Steve D.: This group should decide whether Council for speak for the GNSO as a decisional participant in the EC. </span></p>
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Amr: Just "Unless the Bylaws are further amended" may or may not be necessary.</span></p>
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Steve D.: We will rewrite the paragraph.</span></p>
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Steve M.: What I think we are prepared to assume is that the 17 instances should be that the Council speaks for the GNSO -- that is what the Bylaws say now and thus, "unless the Bylaws are further amended."</span></p>
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Marika Konings: The Bylaws do not limit the GNSO Council to policy development only, at least not as it is currently written, does it?</span></p>
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Steve D.: Nothing in the Bylaws that limit the GNSO Council to managing the PDP, but nothing that says the GNSO Council should speak for the GNSO. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Straw Poll: Straw poll: Is our DT recommending that Council speak for GNSO in new powers for EC?</span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">“Yes” votes: Farzaneh Badii, Steve DelBianco, David Maher, Ed Morris, Matthew Shears, Darcy Southwell</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">“No” votes: Amr Elsadr, Tony Harris, Steve Metaliz</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Straw Poll Results: 6 to 3 majority; significant minority did not agree.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">NomCom Role and Issues Still to be Addressed</span></u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">:</span></p>
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Amr: We do have to acknowledge unresolved issues that we haven't addressed. There also is the question of NomCom appointee roles. There is a lot of work we should do ideally. May want to include a recommendation that another group should follow up on the
work we have done, such as the GNSO Review WG.</span></p>
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Ed Morris: Agree with Amr.</span></p>
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Darcy Southwell: Agree with Amr. Not nearly enough time to thoroughly discuss some issues.</span></p>
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Steve M.: Agree with Amr. Focus on 30 September and be realistic about what we can accomplish. My recommendation is that the report flesh out the issues and recommend they be discussed and decided by stakeholder groups and constituencies within the GNSO.
Please reflect this in notes. </span></p>
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decisions – voting thresholds with or without requiring majorities in each house?</span></u></p>
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Steve M.: Originally had the Names Council with 7 constituencies each with 1 vote.</span></p>
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Ed Morris: Re: NCAs. Reached out to 2 of 3 current NCAs. If our report suggests that the NCAs are exluded the current NCAs will vote against our report. Bylaws state that the NCAs must act on equal footing with other Council. Section 11.3.</span></p>
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David Maher: I agree with that.</span></p>
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Steve M.: I think the reference in the Bylaws is to the non-voting member.</span></p>
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Steve D.: Degree of support for the alternative voting structure -- majorities and supermajorities of Councilors, not each House. Doesn't include votes for the NCA.</span></p>
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David Maher: I do not support this alternative voting scheme.</span></p>
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Ed Morris: Agree with David and vote "no".</span></p>
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Darcy Southwell: Agree with David and vote "no".</span></p>
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Amr: Tying this with the NCA issue. Not sold with the NCA being involved, but we haven't had a thorough discussion. If I am undecided on that I can't weigh in on the voting scheme.</span></p>
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Marika: Decision making -- Council resolution reference to "consensus" is assumed to refer to the definition in the Working Group Guidelines.</span></p>
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Steve D.: So we don't have consensus on the "who" question.</span></p>
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Marika: There is no hard line between the levels of support.</span></p>
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Steve D.: I think we are following the guidelines as close as we can.</span></p>
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Steve M.: Record my vote as "abstain" since my constituency doesn't think these decisions should be taken by the Council. This is an interesting and important option.</span></p>
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Tony Harris: Echo what Steve M. said. I would abstain right now.</span></p>
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Matthew Shears: Vote "no" at this time.</span></p>
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Farzaneh Badii: Vote "no".</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Table on page 5: 3 decision types against two potential Council voting thresholds that are already reflected in current ICANN bylaws for the GNSO</span></u></p>
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Ed Morris: Move investigations -- need 3 decision participants to agree.</span></p>
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Steve D.: Move into the second row.</span></p>
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Ed Morris: 1/3 of any House sufficient for an inspection request. decisions high, nomination middle, inspection requests low.</span></p>
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Amr: Higher than simple majority threshold for nominations and decisions on EC petitions, and less than majority of each house for initiating inspection requests.</span></p>
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Steve M.: Questions -- What nominations are we talking about?</span></p>
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Steve D.: Example is the nomination for a liaison to the CSC, others.</span></p>
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Steve M.: Could apply to a wide range of things that come on a spectrum. Second question -- distinction between the first and second row of the table. Who decisions and what decisions. First row is who, second row is instruction.</span></p>
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Amr: Believe that Council should make appointments generally via some sort of consensus, not simple majority.</span></p>
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Ed Morris: 60% threshold? Amr: That is better, but would prefer a supermajority.</span></p>
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Steve D.: Need a higher threshold for EC rep per Steve. M.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Action Item:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Staff will send a Doodle poll for other times on Wednesday the 28<sup>th</sup> and
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