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My calendar has 14 UTC also.<br>
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<b>From: </b>WUKnoben [<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>]<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 10, 2016 03:27 AM Pacific Standard Time<br>
<b>To: </b>Steve DelBianco; gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Bylaws DT Meeting, 10-October<br>
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<div>As per Julies Doodle poll I’ve noted Monday 10-Oct <strong>at 14 UTC.</strong></div>
<div>Otherwise I may have a problem to join the call in time</div>
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Best regards<br>
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Wolf-Ulrich<br>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="sdelbianco@netchoice.org">Steve DelBianco</a></div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 8, 2016 5:28 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a></div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Bylaws DT Meeting, 10-October</div>
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Couple of docs here to review before our call on Monday 10-Oct at 13 UTC.</div>
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First attachment is updated draft of our report (doc and pdf).</div>
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<div>1. deleted the last page since we already reflect that discussion on page 3. </div>
<div>2. changed the recommendations page to include a reference to the matrix.</div>
<div>(we also expect that Amr may circulate some edits over the weekend)</div>
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Second is updated matrix showing specific recommendations (doc and pdf). </div>
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1. Split the table row for 4.3 Reconsideration Requests, to show that the GNSO could decide to be a claimant on its own.</div>
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2. Added Darcy’s suggestions for 25.2 and 26(a)</div>
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3. Added answer to Darcy question about which EC decisions are covered in Annex D Section 1</div>
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4. Added Wolf-Ulrich’s suggestion for GNSO Supermajority for Sections 25.2(b), 26(a), and Annex D: 3.1(a), 3.2(a), 3.3(a)</div>
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5. Added call notes for Sec 6.2 regarding GNSO rep on the EC</div>
<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">6. Added call notes for Sec 7.12 — designating
<u>Interim</u></font> <u style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
Directors</u> <font face="Calibri,sans-serif">to fill vacancies created by EC recall(s)</font></div>
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7. note that new bylaw 17.3(d) (regarding CSC Charter) requires a threshold we have not seen before: a simple majority of GNSO Council. ( Do we want to amend that to a majority of each house?</div>
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8. Added call notes and staff reply for Sec 18.7 (chair of IFR Team) and Sec 19.6 (chair of SCWG). Bylaws say that GNSO names a co-chair from among the 6 GNSO reps. That suggests having Council approve the GNSO co-chair by majority of each house.</div>
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On Monday we’ll begin where we left-off, Sec 22.8 on page 16. There are just 23 bylaws sections on the remaining pages, so we’ll easily get through that on our 90-minute call.</div>
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date:</span> Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 12:03 PM<br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span> "<a>gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a>gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span> [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Actions/Discussion Notes: Bylaws DT Meeting 05 October<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Dear DT Members,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Please see below the discussion notes captured by staff from the meeting on 05 October. These high-level notes are designed to help DT members navigate through the content of the call
and are not meant as a substitute for the recording. The recording and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/GBIDT/DT+Meetings">https://community.icann.org/display/GBIDT/DT+Meetings</a>. The mapping document from Steve DelBianco is attached.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Best regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Julie</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">GNSO Bylaws Implementation Drafting Team, Wednesday, 05 October 2016 at 1300 UTC</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Action Items:</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">1. Staff will clarify whether 19.6 Election of Co-Chairs and Liaisons references the same process as for co-chairs as IFRT in 18.7.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">2. Steve D will circulate another version of the report with minor changes. Dropping last page. No objection from Steve M.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">3. DT members will continue to review the mapping document beginning with Section 22.8.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Review the mapping document and note any DT recommendation where DT members would like to argue for a decision threshold that differs from what is indicated in the document.</span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Article 4 -- 4.2 & 4.3:</span></u></b></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve M: Surprised in blue. 4.3 B talks about a supporting organization being a claiment -- GNSO on its own initiating reconsideration -- should be green.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D. 4.3 b -- If GNSO made a decision to be a claimant it would be a majority of each House. What else?</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve M.: Probably higher than that. These should be separate. GNSO as part of EC and other GNSO acting on its own.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D.: 4.2 and 4.3 b -- GNOS rep on EC approve a Reconsideration request -- majority of each House? Or different level? If GNSO itself decides to be a claimant for a reconsideration request
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Agreed: 4.6a majority of each House consensus.</span></i></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Marika: Current way Bylaws are written the assumption is the Chair would take that role unless another was selected. How would you deal with multiple candidates/nominees?</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Amr: The Bylaws have referred to the GNSO Council Chair as the GNSO Chair.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Marika: It requires a notification to the ICANN Secretary. Can that happen if there has been no selection? Or does the DT need to make a clarification -- authorized to make that notification
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D.: Not sure we will get to that on this call. First question is when we are nominating -- majority or supermajority. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">6.1 Composition and Organization of the EC – Agreed: majority of DT agreed that Council speaks for GNSO and simple majority of each House.</span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Article 7: Board of Directors, Section 7.2 -- majority of each House -- in appointing replacement directors.</span></i></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve M.: 7.12 -- Entire Board is recalled. Don't see how that could be simple majority. Support a higher threshold.</span></p>
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approving. Better if Bylaws said that Council speaks for GNSO.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Amr: If it the consensus of the GNSO to move in that direction. Language in the current Bylaws supports the Council carrying out the duties of the GNSO.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve M.: The point about the Bylaws change is that the GNSO can't change the Bylaws by itself. Don't agree with Amr that there if there is no direct prohibition then the Council can do it.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Ed Morris: It is a valid point, but not sure that this DT is the one to reconcile this, but maybe when we get to the Council -- may need to ask Legal if we need to amend the Bylaws. Leave it
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Ed Morris: This is a fundamental power. Would prefer a supermajority.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">17.1 CSC -- escalate a failure -- EC authorizing instructions. Agreed: Majority of each House.</span></u></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve M.: ccNSO and GNSO may address matters escalated by the CSC, pursuant to their operating rules and procedures.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D.: You are right, not GNSO rep. GNSO Council speaks for GNSO. Majority of each House would decide. Higher threshold? None.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">17.2 CSC Composition, appointment, term, and removal -- GNSO Liaison. Agreed: Council to approve by majority of each House. Current James Gannon.</span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">17.3(b) GNSO Council would respond by a majority of each House. Agreed: majority of each House.</span></u></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve M says GNSO can request -- who is empowered to request the formation? </span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D.: No role on the registries stakeholder group, but there is a role is for recommendation.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">18 IANA Naming Function Reviews (IFRs). Bylaws say supermajority. DT doesn't have to make a recommendation for 18.2. Same for 18.6.</span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">18.7 Composition of IFR Review Teams - no role for Council each Constituency and Stakeholder Group would designate its own member.</span></u></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Amr -- Q: GNSO SGs need to collectively agree on a uniform process for the nomination and appointment process for IFRT co-chair. A role for Council?</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D. GNSO will have several representatives -- recommend that the representatives from the GNSO will appoint their co-chair.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve M.: Agree.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Amr: Ask for clarification -- GNSO SGs also appointed members to CWG-Accountability -- but GNSO appointed.</span></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D.: Bylaws say co-chairs selected from among the GNSO representatives. Don't see a need for Council to get involved. Recommend that each GNSO SG designates its member and GNSO Review
Team members will select their co-chair.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">18.12 Special IFR – No action by the DT: required review Bylaws say supermajority approval for comment period request.</span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Article 19.4 – No action by the DT: Bylaws references supermajority.</span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Article 19.6 Election of co-chairs and liaisons</span></u></p>
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<!--[endif]--><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Steve D.: Suggest simple majority.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Action Item:</span></b>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Staff to clarify whether this section references the same process as for co-chairs as IFRT in 18.7.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Article 22 – Agreed (see DT Draft Report)</span></u></p>
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span> <<a>gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a>julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date:</span> Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 12:17 PM<br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span> "<a>gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a>gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span> [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Action Item re: 19.6 Election of Co-Chairs and Liaisons<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Dear DT Members,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Per this action item from today’s call:</span> “<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Staff will clarify whether 19.6 Election of Co-Chairs and Liaisons references the same
process as for co-chairs as IFRT in 18.7”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Please see the attached excerpt from the Bylaws of the full text of Section 19.5 SCWG Composition and Section 19.6 Elections of Co-Chairs and Liaisons. Note that 19.5 states:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">[Begin Excerpt]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(a) Each SCWG shall consist of the following members and liaisons to be appointed in accordance with the rules and procedures of the appointing organization:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(i) Two representatives appointed by the ccNSO from its ccTLD registry operator representatives;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(ii) One non-ccNSO ccTLD representative who is associated with a ccTLD registry operator that is not a representative of the ccNSO, appointed by the ccNSO; it
is strongly recommended that the ccNSO consult with the regional ccTLD organizations (i.e., AfTLD, APTLD, LACTLD and CENTR) in making its appointment;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(iii) Three representatives appointed by the Registries Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(iv) One representative appointed by the Registrars Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(v) One representative appointed by the Commercial Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(vi) One representative appointed by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">[End Excerpt]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Furthermore, 19.6 states, “(a) The SCWG shall be led by two co-chairs: one appointed by the GNSO from one of the members appointed pursuant to clauses (iii)-(vi) of Section 19.5(a) and
one appointed by the ccNSO from one of the members appointed pursuant to clauses (i)-(ii) of Section 19.5(a).”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">The language in 18.7 appears to be the same, as in the following excerpt:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">[Begin Excerpt]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Each IFRT shall consist of the following members and liaisons to be appointed in accordance with the rules and procedures of the appointing organization:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(a) Two representatives appointed by the ccNSO from its ccTLD registry operator representatives;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(b) One non-ccNSO ccTLD representative who is associated with a ccTLD registry operator that is not a representative of the ccNSO, appointed by the ccNSO; it
is strongly recommended that the ccNSO consult with the regional ccTLD organizations (i.e., AfTLD, APTLD, LACTLD, and CENTR) in making its appointment;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(c) Two representatives appointed by the Registries Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(d) One representative appointed by the Registrars Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(e) One representative appointed by the Commercial Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">(f) One representative appointed by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">[End Excerpt]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Best regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Julie</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director</span></p>
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