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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear David and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">After a staff discussion with Katrina and Heather at ICANN65 it is suggested that the joint GRC/DT meeting could be held on Monday, 15 July. Staff will confirm the time and will send an invitation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-bylaws-dt <gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:46 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"McAuley, David" <dmcauley@Verisign.com>, "gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" <gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"ccnso-grc@icann.org" <ccnso-grc@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] ccNSO GRC questions re: consulting on Special IFRs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear David,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you very much for passing on these very helpful comments and questions from the GRC. Staff will take the action to schedule a joint GRC/DT meeting as soon as possible following ICANN65, noting that we do not schedule meetings the
week immediately following an ICANN meeting, so the soonest would be the week of 07 July.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Gnso-bylaws-dt <gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "McAuley, David via Gnso-bylaws-dt" <gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"McAuley, David" <dmcauley@Verisign.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 8:07 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org" <gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"ccnso-grc@icann.org" <ccnso-grc@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-bylaws-dt] ccNSO GRC questions re: consulting on Special IFRs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Heather and fellow members of the GNSO Drafting Team:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At the ccNSO Guideline Review Committee (GRC) meeting on Monday, June 17, some questions/comments came up with respect to the draft
<b>Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO Joint Consultation on Initiation of a Special IFR</b>
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_2KXUOMr&d=DwMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=nC4gfbyyEQpMRtwgTZRqwi_KEPkorJJN6BPIwtsjBWQ&m=J4fIptoHzDWaABRUbLvMqZNBoYO-2Qa4daPs0YbDgh8&s=QbpKPs3BRIsEG3hGO4DqaCnWVHJ4md-uoFmdrofi9yE&e=">
document [bit.ly]</a> we have been discussing. (FYI, I am a participant in the GRC as well as in this GNSO team.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will summarize those questions/comments here to help us discuss. In addition, I told the GRC that we believe another joint meeting of GRC and this team will help us close work on this document. We should think about scheduling that –
and it is my hope that this summary will help us focus on the GRC concerns so that we may be able to address these with the GRC in fairly short order when we meet.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here are the questions/comments the GRC noted during the June 17th meeting:<o:p></o:p></p>
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We envision the creation of a GNSO-ccNSO Special IFR Initiation Coordination Team (<b>SICT</b>) – see paragraph 5.2. We say that as
<span style="color:black">soon as the CSC informs the ccNSO and GNSO Councils about a performance issue as defined in the CSC Remedial Action Procedure, the two Councils shall as soon as possible each appoint three (3) members including the Chairs to the SICT.
Well, these CSC procedures involve going first to the PTI Board, then the ICANN CEO, and then to the ICANN Board. The GRC wonders when specifically should the SICT be established and they suggest that it not be until the ICANN Board is engaged in the matter.
(Note – The CSC will inform the Councils of every escalation step in the RAP.)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Question: Do we agree? What do we think?<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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In reading through paragraph 5.3, the GRC was not quite sure whether the respective Councils would have to make one joint statement or two – and how the interplay takes place between posting input on the various websites and jointly releasing a statement through
the SICT.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Question: Can we clarify how this process works?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
Related question: Can we two groups jointly map out the timeline of the SICT to test its viability? (For instance, we allow up to 30 days for input from SOs and ACs (see last sentence of paragraph 4.4) and then perhaps allow for the time needed for public comment
– will these time periods work?)<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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For the work and deliberations involved in paragraphs 5.4 through 5.6 (this is a considerable amount of work) the document places most of the onus on the SICT. THE GRC wonders if this is too much to load onto the SICT and whether some of this should be shifted
to the respective Councils – and what that balance would look like in a bit more detail. Moreover, given the ramifications of the decisions involved which decision should be on the plate of the full Councils and which on the plate of the coordination team?<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Question: What do we think?<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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With respect to considerations of a Special IFR itself, the GRC noted that other avenues exist through which to address PTI issues – for instance (1) possible removal of director(s) and (2) the ability to bring an IRP relating to PTI service complaints and/or
ICANN’s failure to enforce its rights under the IANA Naming Functions Contract – and mediation is also available.
<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Question: Should this document note the fact that Councils will possibly be looking at alternative courses of action and thus we should be careful to check on that possibility to factor it into our calculations?<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;line-height:115%"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Finally, the document should perhaps make reference to ongoing steps by CSC to resolve the issue. What happens if the PTI/IANA issue is resolved along the way – should we address closing down the SIFR and SICT. (Note – once the CSC informs the Councils at the
end of the RAP the role of the CSC is very limited – see the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_csc-2Dremedial-2Daction-2Dprocedures-2D19feb19-2Den.pdf&d=DwMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=tUtS7m-JUxApMefTA-tx6ZrWo-aozx7FEFckQ-LUJFg&s=DIpp1vLnjJrHjA1eO6dqbtpeJZ9KjakYSwjFDfI9yYw&e=">
RAP process [icann.org]</a>.)<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">David<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">David McAuley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sr International Policy & Business Development Manager<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Verisign Inc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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