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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 15 Jul 2019, at 15:00, Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" class="">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class="">Thanks David,</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class="">I think the basic question here is which role and responsibility the SICT shall be allowed to take. For me it is a small WG taking some preparatory workload from the councils in order to put them in a position to tke decisions.</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class="">Looking forward to hearing you in some minutes</p><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class="">Wolf-Ulrich<br class=""></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;">Am 14.07.2019 um 22:23 schrieb McAuley, David via Gnso-bylaws-dt:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4c0eb46db4634cdd92e62bfef99da232@Verisign.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Heather and members of the GNSO drafting team,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In preparing for the call tomorrow with the ccNSO Guidelines Review Committee, I’d like to note my suggestions on the questions we will be looking at tomorrow, given my unique perspective as a member of both teams.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Here are the questions, followed by my recommendations in red-italics:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">We envision the creation of a GNSO-ccNSO Special IFR Initiation Coordination Team (SICT) – see paragraph 5.2. We say that as soon as the CSC informs the ccNSO and GNSO Councils about a performance issue as defined in the CSC Remedial Action Procedure, the two Councils shall as soon as possible each appoint three (3) members including the Chairs to the SICT. Well, these CSC procedures involve going first to the PTI Board, then the ICANN CEO, and then to the ICANN Board. The GRC wonders when specifically should the SICT be established and they suggest that it not be until the ICANN Board is engaged in the matter. (Note – The CSC will inform the Councils of every escalation step in the RAP.) <o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.75in; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.5in;"><span class="">a.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Question: Do we agree? What do we think?<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">It seems like a sensible suggestion to me. The Board will take at least a little time to react and with this joint guideline the SICT ought to be able to get prepared. It might make sense, however, for both Councils (when they adopt this guideline) to create an annual reminder on their agendas of what a SICT is and whom they might consider as likely candidates should the need arise. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><ol start="2" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In reading through paragraph 5.3, the GRC was not quite sure whether the respective Councils would have to make one joint statement or two – and how the interplay takes place between posting input on the various websites and jointly releasing a statement through the SICT. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> a. Question: Can we clarify how this process works? <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">b. Related question: Can we two groups jointly map out the timeline of the SICT to test its viability? (For instance, we allow up to 30 days for input from SOs and ACs (see last sentence of paragraph 4.4) and then perhaps allow for the time needed for public comment – will these time periods work?) <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">Paragraph 5.3 currently says this in part: ‘</span></i></b><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">The GNSO and ccNSO shall jointly release a statement through the SICT that they are initiating a Joint Consultation</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>…’<o:p class=""></o:p></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">That sounds to me as if there is just one statement and it comes from SICT. Maybe SICT can sign off on such a statement and then below its signature could be approval signature-blocks for ccNSO and GNSO.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">On timing, I think a ‘dry-run’-through makes good sense. But I also suggest that we consider an overarching timing-paragraph along these lines:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><u class=""><span style="color: red;" class=""><o:p class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class=""> </span></o:p></span></u></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><u class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">Flexible construction of time periods within this document</span></u><span style="color: red;" class="">:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><u class=""><span style="color: red;" class=""><o:p class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class=""> </span></o:p></span></u></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><u class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">Each time period specified in this document within which any decision or other action must be made shall be understood as being a ‘not-greater-than’ time period, it being understood that in all instances, as well as cumulatively, the individual or group (e.g. Council Chair or SICT) having to decide or act shall decide or act so as to remain within the times specified under the ICANN Bylaws(including the Annexes to such Bylaws).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><ol start="3" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">For the work and deliberations involved in paragraphs 5.4 through 5.6 (this is a considerable amount of work) the document places most of the onus on the SICT. THE GRC wonders if this is too much to load onto the SICT and whether some of this should be shifted to the respective Councils – and what that balance would look like in a bit more detail. Moreover, given the ramifications of the decisions involved which decision should be on the plate of the full Councils and which on the plate of the coordination team? <o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><ol start="1" type="a" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.25in; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Question: What do we think? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">This also seems sensible – and maybe a good division would be to assign duties in 5.4 and 5.6 to SICT, and those in 5.5 to Councils.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></i></b></div><ol start="4" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">With respect to considerations of a Special IFR itself, the GRC noted that other avenues exist through which to address PTI issues – for instance (1) possible removal of director(s) and (2) the ability to bring an IRP relating to PTI service complaints and/or ICANN’s failure to enforce its rights under the IANA Naming Functions Contract – and mediation is also available. <o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><ol start="1" type="a" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.25in; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Question: Should this document note the fact that Councils will possibly be looking at alternative courses of action and thus we should be careful to check on that possibility to factor it into our calculations?<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">This seems wise, at least for the SICT (assume that Councils will remain abreast of developments in other avenues) – maybe a sentence at the end of section 5.2 along these lines:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><u class=""><span style="color: red;" class=""><o:p class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class=""> </span></o:p></span></u></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><u class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">In addition, the SICT shall take steps to remain informed of developments at resolving the PTI Performance Issue(s) by other means and shall consider such developments as they may reasonably influence the work of the SICT without jeopardizing the SICT’s ability to remain within the timeline(s) specified by the Bylaws (including Annexes to the Bylaws). <o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><ol start="5" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: 16.866666793823242px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Finally, the document should perhaps make reference to ongoing steps by CSC to resolve the issue. What happens if the PTI/IANA issue is resolved along the way – should we address closing down the SIFR and SICT. (Note – once the CSC informs the Councils at the end of the RAP the role of the CSC is very limited – see the RAP process [<a href="http://icann.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">icann.org</a>].)<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">This seems sensible, but I would like to hear a bit more from Bart about what this might look like.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">David<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">David McAuley<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sr International Policy & Business Development Manager<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Verisign Inc.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">703-948-4154<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
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