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<p>Thank you Julie, very helpful.</p>
<p>Wolf-Ulrich<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.08.2019 um 20:20 schrieb Julie
Hedlund:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Wolf-Ulrich,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your comments. In the first,
you helpfully pointed out duplicate text on page 5. We’ve
resolved your comment and deleted the text.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your second comment, also on page 5,
suggested the need for a clarification. You note that the
statement, “Within twenty-one (21) days after the expiration
of the Approval Action Community Forum, the GNSO Council
will...” is inconsistent with the 14-day deadline for a
Council meeting and decision in the timeline. The reason for
the discrepancy is that it is expected that the Council
decision would take place within the 21-day period, but not
later than 21 days. In order to ensure the Council’s timely
decision a meeting is scheduled in the timeline at the
earliest possible time – at 14 days – and a decision is taken
accordingly. However, it is possible that a meeting and
decision could occur later than 14 days, but still within the
21-day period.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From: </span></b><span>Gnso-bylaws-dt
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of
"Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"><wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 1:30 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org">"gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org"><gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] FINAL CALL 07
AUGUST: Final Revised Guidelines & Motion Template -
Section 1.3 Approval Action Community Forum (24 July 2019)</span></p>
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<p>Thanks Heather,</p>
<p>daylight has also touched Europe, and so I inserted comments
which I think can easily be clarifed.</p>
<p>Looking forward to meeting you later today</p>
<p>Wolf-Ulrich</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 07.08.2019 um 07:13 schrieb Heather
Forrest:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks very much to Julie and Ariel for
keeping us on track with our deadlines for finalising our
work on Section 1.3.
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<p class="MsoNormal">It looks to me (albeit I'm ahead of
most of you in time zone, so I appreciate that the 7th
August is just beginning for some) like we have no new
comments or concerns raised in the Google Doc. My
comment in there about the timeline and whether a
Council meeting is called for a policy or administrative
issue is the only remaining comment. After discussions
with staff about this, I don't think it's a point that
should impact our timeline here in 1.3, although it is
going to become a live issue at some point, I'm
guessing, in some other, more material context. What I
propose that we do is to include with our package of
guidelines to Council when we submit it in September a
covering note or additional comments that flag this
issue of whether a Council meeting to address an EC
responsibility is policy-related or administrative for
the purposes of the GNSO Operating Procedures rules on
notice of Council meetings. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes to all,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Heather</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 11:51 PM
Julie Hedlund <<a
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear DT members,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Per action item 2 below from the
meeting on 24 July, this is a FINAL CALL for
comments or suggested edits on the final revised
version of the GUIDELINES & MOTION TEMPLATE:
SECTION 1.3 APPROVAL ACTION COMMUNITY FORUM DRAFT
(24 July 2019) at:<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> <a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1walBGVlK4C2eIq-5FGj4DWYxkjxE-5Fk8u718iXIySdayVQ_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMDaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=oKqeiIhNsM3aEKNgE_GIo25AexFKMJoY3x41HREMeno&s=x67lwin6xINdpL04ogjqxcFTPGkONVdqQl_ZxyanMHQ&e="
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1walBGVlK4C2eIq_Gj4DWYxkjxE_k8u718iXIySdayVQ/edit?usp=sharing
[docs.google.com]</a>. The document also is
attached in Word with redlines.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>The FINAL CALL will end as of
Wednesday, 07 August 2019.</b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you very much for your
consideration.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie & Ariel</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:
</b>Gnso-bylaws-dt <<a
href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 5:58 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a
href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-bylaws-dt] Actions &
Notes: GNSO Drafting Team Meeting 24 July 21:00
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please see below the action items
and notes captured by staff from the<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> </span>GNSO
Drafting Team meeting held on<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> </span>24
July 2019<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> </span>(21:00-22:00
UTC). Staff have posted these to the wiki space. <b><i>Please
note that these<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> </span>are<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> </span>high-level
notes and are not meant as a substitute for the
recording, chat room, or transcript</i></b><i>.</i> The
recording, AC chat,<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> </span>transcript<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space"> </span>and
attendance records are posted on the wiki<span
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959apple-converted-space">
at:
<a
href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=111387725"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=111387725</a>.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please note that all versions of
the guidelines may be found on the wiki at:
<a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/GBIDT/Templates+and+Guidelines+Depository"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://community.icann.org/display/GBIDT/Templates+and+Guidelines+Depository</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best Regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Actions Items:</b></p>
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<ol start="1" type="1">
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
<b>Section 18.12 Special IFRs: Guidelines for
GNSO-ccNSO Consultation on Initiating a Special
IFR: </b>
</li>
</ol>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<ol start="1" type="a">
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
DT members to review and provide comments on the
CLEAN version of the draft document at:
<a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1OnFqzjkFTJEw0rzvaiBqAKLVnbbli-2Dc-5F5t9aV2TEt10_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=n1pFSWYlqFjm1ID3gK7nbPFD_IxCw3g79ArhdbY267s&s=9a1yfhxGDXsBz1LN51V7B_yyrOnl6vlcTXMwnar2Vx0&e="
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OnFqzjkFTJEw0rzvaiBqAKLVnbbli-c_5t9aV2TEt10/edit?usp=sharing
[docs.google.com]</a> ASAP but not later than
16 August.
</li>
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
Staff and David McCauley to coordinate on
sending a reminder to the DT and GRC. </li>
</ol>
</ol>
<ol start="2" type="1">
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
<b>Section 1.3 Approval Action Community Forum: </b>
</li>
</ol>
<ol start="2" type="1">
<ol start="1" type="a">
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
Staff to work with Heather Forrest and Steve
DelBianco on revised language relating to
section 1.4 of the Bylaws.
</li>
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
Staff to work with Heather Forrest with respect
to revised language relating to the timeline.
</li>
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
DT members to review the final draft with the
last call at the meeting on 07 August.
</li>
</ol>
</ol>
<ol start="3" type="1">
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
<b>Section 2.2 Petition Process for Specified
Actions and Section 2.3 Rejection Action
Community: </b>
</li>
</ol>
<ol start="3" type="1">
<ol start="1" type="a">
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
Staff should incorporate a timeline for both
processes and make sure that the relevant
sections of 2.3 are consistent with 1.3.
</li>
<li
class="gmail-m2073006827186519959msolistparagraph">
DT members should review the revised draft
guidelines in preparation for the meeting on 07
August.
</li>
</ol>
</ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Notes:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>1. Section 18.12 Special IFRs:
Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO Consultation on
Initiating a Special IFR:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- DT and GRC had a productive
meeting on Monday, 15 July to discuss revisions to
the guidelines addressing questions from the GRC.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Staff worked with Heather
Forrest and David McCauley to revise the document
and sent it to the GRC and DT on 18 July.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Staff will work with David
McCauley on the timing of a reminder to the GRC and
DT to request input no later than 16 August.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>3. Section 1.3 Approval Action
Community Forum:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- 4.1 Representative to the EC
Administration -- that is correct, the Chair may not
always be in this position. Leave it as
“Representative to the EC Administration” rather
than “Chair”.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- 4.3.1: “In no event later
than” could be said simply as “within". Although
the first construction is more consistent with the
Bylaws.
<b>ACTION: Heather and Steve to review.</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- 4.3.2: Abstentions: count as
abstentions in this section, not as a no, with
respect to the count. The relevant section of the
Bylaws is excerpted, but include a note about
approval at the beginning of the document: “Note
that per Bylaws section 1.4(b)(i)-(iii) of Decision
Whether to Approve an Approval Action, an action is
approved if it is (A) supported by three or more
Decisional Participants and (B) not objected to by
more than one Decisional Participant.” <b>ACTION:
Staff to insert text for Heather and Steve to
review.</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- On the Timeline for GNSO
Council Decision, T-21
<b>-- </b>Schedule Special Meeting of the GNSO
Council to occur within 14 days -- check GNSO
Operating Procedures 3.3.1 Advance Notice of
Meetings.
<b>ACTION: Heather to review.</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Final call is the next DT
meeting on 07 August.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>3. Section 2.2 Petition
Process for Specified Actions and Section 2.3
Rejection Action Community:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- When we did these bylaws in
2016 we wanted to allow each AC/SO decisional
participant to decide it’s own procedures to arrive
at its decision.<span>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- From Heather Forrest to
Everyone: (05:51 PM)
<span>
</span>@Steve - for GNSO does that also mean
decision-making within the SG/Cs?<span>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Steve’s suggestion -- should
be stakeholder groups OR constituencies.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Staff should incorporate a
timeline for both processes and make sure that the
relevant sections of 2.3 are consistent with 1.3.
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- DT members should review and
be prepared for a discussion during the meeting on
07 August.</p>
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