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    <p>Hi David,</p>
    <p>on the one hand I understand your point of starting the clock to
      put pressure on SG/Cs. I'd prefer to not allow such a policy
      rather than taking the direct line to the DP, meaning GNSO council
      (secretariat?).<br>
    </p>
    <p>Best regards</p>
    <p>Wolf-Ulrich<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.09.2019 um 15:09 schrieb McAuley,
      David via Gnso-bylaws-dt:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you, Heather.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I agree with your analysis – that is how I
          have been interpreting these parts of Annex D.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">And so I agree with this part of your
          email:</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">If the "individual" in Annex D section
          3.1(a) submits the petition to something other than the GNSO
          Council, the clock has not yet started. That's not to say that
          an individual is prevented from submitting to an SG/C, but it
          seems to me that the SG/C is obliged to send on to the Council
          ASAP, without debate or discussion. Annex D doesn't give us
          any ground to enable an SG or C to delay or discuss, and
          further, "individual" means the petitioner, not an SG or C. </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The only point I would add is this. If the
          individual submits the petition to something other than the
          GNSO Council on the individual’s own initiative, then I agree
          with the foregoing.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">If, however, the GNSO adopts a policy,
          guideline, process – whatever – that requires or urges an
          individual to submit a petition not directly to the GNSO but
          rather through an SG or C then will the submission to the SG
          or C at the GNSO’s direction/urging not start the clock? I
          would think that it would. </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">David</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">David McAuley</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Sr International Policy & Business
          Development Manager</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Verisign Inc.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">703-948-4154</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-bylaws-dt
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces@icann.org></a>
          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heather Forrest<br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:11 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org">gnso-bylaws-dt@icann.org</a>; Ariel Liang
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org"><ariel.liang@icann.org></a>; Julie Hedlund
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org"><julie.hedlund@icann.org></a>; Marika Konings
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><marika.konings@icann.org></a>; Mary Wong
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><mary.wong@icann.org></a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [Gnso-bylaws-dt] Fwd:
          [Ntfy-gnso-bylaws-dt] **Reminder** Meeting invitation: GNSO
          Drafting Team call / Thursday, 26 September 2019 at 21:00 UTC</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Apologies, all - I found a seriously
              nonsensical typo in my earlier message! Trying again with
              the correction below. Sorry for slamming your inbox.</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">H</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Reminder to all that we have our
                    extra call this week (in roughly 9 hours). </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Our sole focus in this extra
                      call is to reach a decision on how/to whom to
                      submit a petition to remove a director. We need to
                      interpret Bylaws Annex D in the GNSO context. I
                      have read this again carefully and reviewed the
                      recordings from our previous calls. Here is my
                      interpretation as a strawman for our call:</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">The language of Annex D section
                      3.1 ((a) "Subject to the procedures and
                      requirements developed by the applicable
                      Decisional Participant, an individual may submit a
                      petition to a Decisional Participant...") tells me
                      that the key terms are "<b>individual</b>" and "<b>Decisional
                        Participant</b>". As I understand our previous
                      calls, we all agree (in this contexts and
                      elsewhere in our work) that "individual" means
                      anyone. The term is not defined in the Bylaws.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Then in Annex D section 3.1
                      (b), ("During the period beginning on the date
                      that the Decisional Participant received the
                      Nominating Committee Director Removal
                      Petition..."), this tells me that the clock starts
                      when the
                      <b>Decisional Participant</b> receives the
                      petition. </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Article 6, section 6.1 defines
                      "Decisional Participant": <span>(a) The Empowered
                        Community ("<strong><span>EC</span></strong>")
                        shall be a nonprofit association formed under
                        the laws of the State of California consisting
                        of the </span>ASO<span>, the </span>ccNSO<span> (as
                        defined in <u>Section 10.1</u>), the </span>GNSO<span> (as
                        defined in <u>Section 11.1</u>), the </span>ALAC<span> (as
                        defined in <u>Section 12.2(d)(i)</u>) and the </span>GAC<span> (each
                        a "<strong><span>Decisional Participant</span></strong>"
                        or "associate," and collectively, the "<strong><span>Decisional
                            Participants</span></strong>").</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Annex D, Section 3.1(b)
                      therefore can be read: "During the period
                      beginning on the date that the
                      <b>GNSO</b> received the Nominating Committee
                      Director Removal Petition...."  Section 11.2 of
                      the Bylaws describes the
                      <b>GNSO</b> as "consist[ing] of" "[a] Number of
                      Constituencies"... "organized within the
                      Stakeholder Groups". I do not understand 11.2 to
                      allow us to interpret any single constituency or
                      Stakeholder Group individually as the GNSO.
                      Rather, the GNSO consists of all of those. Back to
                      Annex D, Section 3.1(b), my view is that "when the
                      <b>GNSO</b> receives the petition" means the GNSO
                      as a whole, not any individual SG or C. For
                      matters of the EC, the GNSO Council acts for the
                      GNSO as a whole. Hence the clock starts ticking
                      when the GNSO Council receives the petition. </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">If the "individual" in Annex D
                      section 3.1(a) submits the petition to something
                      other than the GNSO Council, the clock has not yet
                      started. That's not to say that an individual is
                      prevented from submitting to an SG/C, but it seems
                      to me that the SG/C is obliged to send on to the
                      Council ASAP, without debate or discussion. Annex
                      D doesn't give us any ground to enable an SG or C
                      to delay or discuss, and further, "individual"
                      means the petitioner, not an SG or C. </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">I have copied the relevant
                      Annex D section 3.1(a) and (b) below. For ease,
                      link to the full Bylaws here: <a
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#annexD"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#annexD</a></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Very best wishes, and thank you
                      for your continued hard work,</p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Heather</p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <h4>
                      <span>ARTICLE 3 PROCEDURE FOR EXERCISE OF EC'S
                        RIGHTS TO REMOVE DIRECTORS AND RECALL THE BOARD</span></h4>
                    <p><a
                        name="m_-4228815550966307847_m_-29819464443416"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"></a><strong><span>Section
                          3.1. NOMINATING COMMITTEE DIRECTOR REMOVAL
                          PROCESS</span></strong><span></span></p>
                    <p><span>(a) Subject to the procedures and
                        requirements developed by the applicable
                        Decisional Participant, an individual may submit
                        a petition to a Decisional Participant seeking
                        to remove a Director holding Seats 1 through 8
                        and initiate the Nominating Committee Director
                        Removal Process ("<strong><span>Nominating
                            Committee Director Removal Petition</span></strong>").
                        Each Nominating Committee Director Removal
                        Petition shall set forth the rationale upon
                        which such individual seeks to remove such
                        Director. The process set forth in this <u>Section
                          3.1</u> of <u>Annex D</u> is referred to
                        herein as the "<strong><span>Nominating
                            Committee Director Removal Process</span></strong>."</span></p>
                    <p><span>(b) During the period beginning on the date
                        that the Decisional Participant received the
                        Nominating Committee Director Removal Petition
                        (such date of receipt, the "<strong><span>Nominating
                            Committee Director Removal Petition Date</span></strong>")
                        and ending at 11:59 p.m. (as calculated by local
                        time at the location of ICANN's principal
                        office) on the date that is the 21</span><span>st</span><span> day
                        after the Nominating Committee Director Removal
                        Petition Date (as it relates to a particular
                        Director, the "<strong><span>Nominating
                            Committee Director Removal Petition Period</span></strong>"),
                        the Decisional Participant that has received a
                        Nominating Committee Director Removal Petition
                        ("<strong><span>Nominating Committee Director
                            Removal</span></strong> <strong><span>Petitioned
                            Decisional Participant</span></strong>")
                        shall either accept or reject such Nominating
                        Committee Director Removal Petition; provided
                        that a Nominating Committee Director Removal
                        Petitioned Decisional Participant shall not
                        accept a Nominating Committee Director Removal
                        Petition if, during the same term, the Director
                        who is the subject of such Nominating Committee
                        Director Removal Petition had previously been
                        subject to a Nominating Committee Director
                        Removal Petition that led to a Nominating
                        Committee Director Removal Community Forum (as
                        discussed in <u>Section 3.1(e)</u> of this <u>Annex
                          D</u>).</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:47
                      PM Julie Bisland <<a
                        href="mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">julie.bisland@icann.org</a>>
                      wrote:</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">D<span>ear All,</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">
                          <span> </span></p>
                        <p>
                          <span>Please find the meeting information
                            below for the</span><span> GNSO Drafting
                            Team to Further Develop Guidelines and
                            Principles for the GNSO’s Roles and
                            Obligations as a Decisional Participant in
                            the Empowered Committee<b> </b><span>call</span> <span>on </span></span><strong><span>Thursday,
                              26 September 2019 at 21:00 UTC for 60
                              minutes.</span></strong></p>
                        <p>
                          <span>14:00 PDT, 17:00 EDT, 23:00 Paris CEST,
                            (</span><span>Friday</span><span>) 02:00
                            Karachi PKT, (Friday) 06:00 Tokyo JST,
                            (Friday) 07:00 Melbourne AEST</span></p>
                        <p>
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