From terri.agnew at icann.org Tue Jul 1 13:48:26 2014 From: terri.agnew at icann.org (Terri Agnew) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:48:26 -0700 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] REMINDER: PLEASE RSVP Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session Message-ID: Reminder: Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session These ongoing monthly sessions are for new GNSO WG participants to come together and discuss any questions they may have about GNSO Working Groups, procedures and/or processes. We know there is a lot of information to digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and these monthly meetings are an opportunity for newcomers and more experienced participants to meet in an informal setting without the pressure of "real work" that needs be done. The agenda is flexible. The presenters will be ready with a standard set of materials if people would like to discuss them. Feel free to submit questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if there is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth . Providing useful answers to a wide range of questions is part of the reason why these meetings are Thursday 3 July at 20.00 UTC Thursday 7 August at 12.00 UTC Thursday 4 September at 20.00 UTC Thursday 2 October at 12.00 UTC Thursday 6 November at 20.00 UTC Thursday 4 December at 12.00 UTC To convert to your local time zone, please see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. If you are interested to join the next meeting on 3 July or any of the future meetings, please let the GNSO Secretariat know ( gnso-secs at icann.org) and we will send you the call details. If there are any specific questions you already have, or any overviews or introductions you think would be helpful (e.g. GNSO Policy Development Process or GNSO Working Group guidelines), please let us know in advance and we will prepare materials accordingly. 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Please note that there is no meeting tomorrow. As agreed during the face-to-face, there will be a Doodle poll to ensure that we are meeting at a time which is convenient for most of us. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lars.hoffmann at icann.org Wed Jul 2 12:10:47 2014 From: lars.hoffmann at icann.org (Lars Hoffmann) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 05:10:47 -0700 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services etc. Message-ID: Dear Chris, dear all, Thank you for your note ? please find here the Doodle poll about our weekly meeting time. Please note that these time slot options are NOT just for next week but rather for all forthcoming weekly calls. http://doodle.com/uwxzpriq483wf6dn Please take a minute to fill this in. I will close the poll on Friday Best wishes, Lars From: , Chris Date: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 13:59 To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org" Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services etc. Dear colleagues, Good to see many of you in London last week. I would like to draw your attention to The final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services: www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/final-report-06jun14-en.pdf I hope we will be able to discuss the relevant parts of this during a T&T WG meeting in the near future. Please note that there is no meeting tomorrow. As agreed during the face-to-face, there will be a Doodle poll to ensure that we are meeting at a time which is convenient for most of us. 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Best, Lars From: Lars HOFFMANN Date: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 14:10 To: "Dillon, Chris" , "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org" Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services etc. Dear Chris, dear all, Thank you for your note ? please find here the Doodle poll about our weekly meeting time. Please note that these time slot options are NOT just for next week but rather for all forthcoming weekly calls. http://doodle.com/uwxzpriq483wf6dn Please take a minute to fill this in. I will close the poll on Friday Best wishes, Lars From: , Chris Date: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 13:59 To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org" Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services etc. Dear colleagues, Good to see many of you in London last week. 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NPOC Wolf Ulrich Knoben ? ISPC Wen Zhai ? NTAG Apologies: Chris Dillon ? NCSG Petter Rindforth - IPC ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Amy Bivins Glen de Saint Gery Lars Hoffmann Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Terri GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 10 July 2014: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP WG meeting on Thursday 10 July 2014 Julie Hedlund:Hello everyone -- I'm currently in queue to get on the call. Rudi Vansnick:hello Lars Hoffmann:@julie - same here Rudi Vansnick:just waiting for a few minutes Jennifer Chung:Hello everyone. Julie Hedlund:I'm on the call now. Terri Agnew:I have alerted the operator Jim Galvin:still waiting on hold Peter Dernbach:Hello everyone. Howard Li:me too, on hold Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:I'm in now, hello everyone Howard Li:I am in Howard Li:sorry, I am dropped from the call Wen Zhai:Hello everyone. I could not hear anything. Is it because i got in as a guest? Lars Hoffmann:it was julie actually ... Terri Agnew:Wen, I have private chatted you Jim Galvin:since we can not display both the list from Chris and the document could someone please remind us of the page number we are reviewing here in the chat room? Thanks. Julie Hedlund:@Jim: I'll note the pages in the chat room as we go along. Julie Hedlund:page 21 Julie Hedlund:page 22 Julie Hedlund:Page 32-33 Peter Dernbach:where is the sentence you quoted Rudi? Jennifer Chung:I think we are on pg 34, Rudi quoted from the second and third paragraphs. Peter Dernbach:thanks Jennifer Rudi Vansnick:yes pg 34 par. 3 Sentence starting At lthe very least, however ... Rudi Vansnick:page 43 - point 30 Klaus Stoll:Sorry I need to go. Till next time. Terri Agnew:Petter Rindforth sends his apology for this call Julie Hedlund:Apologies everyone, but I need to get off to get another call started. Jim Galvin:@julie -- say it isn't so! :-) Peter Dernbach:thanks Julie. Julie Hedlund:Thanks everyone -- Bye! Jim Galvin:Folks I need to move to another call. Thanks Rudi! And thanks to Chris. Great list. Peter Dernbach:Thanks Rudi. Thanks all. Jennifer Chung:Thanks Rudi, bye everyone! Wen Zhai:bye Howard Li:bye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5417 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rudi.vansnick at isoc.be Fri Jul 11 07:04:19 2014 From: rudi.vansnick at isoc.be (Rudi Vansnick) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:04:19 +0200 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Additional information on EWG RDS. Message-ID: <5CCE12F9-0C7F-4128-9F56-8F52A2055E36@isoc.be> Dear colleagues, Please find herewith the link to another document related to the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services (EWG). It is a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) report that eventually would help us on some of the purpose questions we had during the call yesterday. https://community.icann.org/display/WG/EWG+FAQs Kind regards Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick at npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk Mon Jul 14 15:46:40 2014 From: c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk (Dillon, Chris) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:46:40 +0000 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Transformation required at the validation stage? Message-ID: <2564fb2e79744731a54d99196b07552f@DB3PR01MB234.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Dear colleagues, I just listened to last Thursday's call. It sounds as if you covered a lot of ground, although I haven't yet checked whether the FAQs Rudi circulated contain anything that didn't come up on the pages I highlighted as important for us as I read the Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services. At one point Jim Galvin asked whether transformation would be required at the validation stage. I would say no to that question. The original language/script data are primary and suitable for validation. It's not that transformed data cannot be validated, but they need to be high quality (outside Greek, Cyrillic and alphabetic scripts often created by human being rather than a computer). Actually I think Rudi made a similar point later in the call, but just to clarify that. 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Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick at npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdernbach at winklerpartners.com Thu Jul 17 10:49:22 2014 From: pdernbach at winklerpartners.com (Peter Dernbach) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:49:22 +0800 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Proposal to cancel the weekly call - urgent In-Reply-To: <055D5AFE-1483-4F67-ADD8-D010B6B958F1@isoc.be> References: <055D5AFE-1483-4F67-ADD8-D010B6B958F1@isoc.be> Message-ID: Fine with me Rudi. I look forward to speaking with everyone next week. Cheers, Peter Peter J.Dernbach ??? Partner ????(???????) *T* 886 (0)2 2311 2345 # 222 *F* 886 (0)2 2311 2688 www.winklerpartners.com pdernbach at winklerpartners.com ------------------------------ NOTICE: This email and any attachments contain private, confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or distribute the contents and are requested to delete them and to notify the sender. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > As we have today several meetings in parallel going on, Chris Dillon is > also on travel, I?m asking you if we could cancel today?s call. I?m > following the IANA coordination meeting in London, have a SO/AC leadership > call at the same as our call and thus making live quite difficult ? Sorry > for this late message. > > Kind regards, > > Rudi Vansnick > Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) > www.npoc.org > > rudi.vansnick at npoc.org > Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 > Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justine.chew at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 11:01:11 2014 From: justine.chew at gmail.com (Justine Chew) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:01:11 +0800 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Proposal to cancel the weekly call - urgent In-Reply-To: <055D5AFE-1483-4F67-ADD8-D010B6B958F1@isoc.be> References: <055D5AFE-1483-4F67-ADD8-D010B6B958F1@isoc.be> Message-ID: Dear Rudi, So noted. No objections from me as I have a major work deadline tomorrow so would appreciate the cancellation too. Kind regards, Justine Chew ----- On 17 July 2014 18:42, Rudi Vansnick wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > As we have today several meetings in parallel going on, Chris Dillon is > also on travel, I?m asking you if we could cancel today?s call. I?m > following the IANA coordination meeting in London, have a SO/AC leadership > call at the same as our call and thus making live quite difficult ? Sorry > for this late message. > > Kind regards, > > Rudi Vansnick > Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) > www.npoc.org > > rudi.vansnick at npoc.org > Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 > Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?m following the IANA coordination meeting in London, have a SO/AC leadership call at the same as our call and thus making live quite difficult ? Sorry for this late message. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick at npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nathalie.peregrine at icann.org Thu Jul 17 11:09:37 2014 From: nathalie.peregrine at icann.org (Nathalie Peregrine) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:09:37 +0000 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Proposal to cancel the weekly call - urgent In-Reply-To: References: <055D5AFE-1483-4F67-ADD8-D010B6B958F1@isoc.be> Message-ID: Dear all, Thank you for the notification. I will get the call cancelled straight away. Kind regards Nathalie From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org] On Behalf Of Justine Chew Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:01 PM To: Rudi Vansnick Cc: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org; Lars Hoffmann; Julie Hedlund; Dillon, Chris Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Proposal to cancel the weekly call - urgent Dear Rudi, So noted. No objections from me as I have a major work deadline tomorrow so would appreciate the cancellation too. Kind regards, Justine Chew ----- On 17 July 2014 18:42, Rudi Vansnick wrote: Dear colleagues, As we have today several meetings in parallel going on, Chris Dillon is also on travel, I?m asking you if we could cancel today?s call. I?m following the IANA coordination meeting in London, have a SO/AC leadership call at the same as our call and thus making live quite difficult ? Sorry for this late message. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick at npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5457 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jgalvin at afilias.info Thu Jul 17 13:17:09 2014 From: jgalvin at afilias.info (James Galvin) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:17:09 -0400 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Transformation required at the validation stage? In-Reply-To: <2564fb2e79744731a54d99196b07552f@DB3PR01MB234.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> References: <2564fb2e79744731a54d99196b07552f@DB3PR01MB234.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Message-ID: <53C7CCD5.7090901@afilias.info> On 7/14/14, 11:46 AM, Dillon, Chris wrote: > > At one point Jim Galvin asked whether transformation would be required > at the validation stage. I would say no to that question. The original > language/script data are primary and suitable for validation. It's not > that transformed data cannot be validated, but they need to be high > quality (outside Greek, Cyrillic and alphabetic scripts often created > by human being rather than a computer). Actually I think Rudi made a > similar point later in the call, but just to clarify that. > Perhaps I should listen to the recording to get more context. However, one point that occurs to me is that I don't think you can give an unequivocal no just yet. Consider the question of whether or not a single script and language is required. If we decide that all registration information is to be in a single script and language, then we can consider the question of which presentation of the data to validate: the original input data or the transformed data. I would argue that if the chosen single script and language is to be "official", then that presentation of the data should be subject to all the validation requirements. The input data will need to be normalized so that it can be transformed. We will need to keep the input form of the data for audit purposes. However, validating the input form seems to me to be tantamount to simply supporting all languages and scripts, which makes me wonder why we would choose a single language and script for all data. This is my current thinking. Jim > Regards, > > Chris. > > -- > > Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital > Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int > 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk Fri Jul 18 10:44:03 2014 From: c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk (Dillon, Chris) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:44:03 +0000 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Transformation required at the validation stage? In-Reply-To: <53C7CCD5.7090901@afilias.info> References: <2564fb2e79744731a54d99196b07552f@DB3PR01MB234.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <53C7CCD5.7090901@afilias.info> Message-ID: <606bd9f61c5f4791a1b8d9280e80265c@DB3PR01MB234.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> Dear Jim, That should certainly have been a qualified "no". Original data are the best for validation. For example, a Chinese address is basically Chinese characters and that is the primary form. If data have been transformed, the transformation has to be high quality (i.e. probably not automated except possibly for some alphabetic scripts) and a check needs to be made that the transformed data match the original data. Regards, Chris. From: James Galvin [mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info] Sent: 17 July 2014 14:17 To: Dillon, Chris; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Transformation required at the validation stage? On 7/14/14, 11:46 AM, Dillon, Chris wrote: At one point Jim Galvin asked whether transformation would be required at the validation stage. I would say no to that question. The original language/script data are primary and suitable for validation. It's not that transformed data cannot be validated, but they need to be high quality (outside Greek, Cyrillic and alphabetic scripts often created by human being rather than a computer). Actually I think Rudi made a similar point later in the call, but just to clarify that. Perhaps I should listen to the recording to get more context. However, one point that occurs to me is that I don't think you can give an unequivocal no just yet. Consider the question of whether or not a single script and language is required. If we decide that all registration information is to be in a single script and language, then we can consider the question of which presentation of the data to validate: the original input data or the transformed data. I would argue that if the chosen single script and language is to be "official", then that presentation of the data should be subject to all the validation requirements. The input data will need to be normalized so that it can be transformed. We will need to keep the input form of the data for audit purposes. However, validating the input form seems to me to be tantamount to simply supporting all languages and scripts, which makes me wonder why we would choose a single language and script for all data. This is my current thinking. 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I then have another meeting until ours starts, so I will be out of contact. The draft is likely to generate quite a bit of discussion. I'm keen that this is largely done in writing to this list, so that new versions may be discussed during our meetings on 31 July and 14 August. I am travelling on 7 August and so can't make our meeting. It may still be possible to run that meeting, if Rudi is free. Incidentally, I had been thinking that we were coming out of our "read relevant documents" phase, but the drafting has indicated a couple of documents we still need to look at. Until later. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best,Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 24 juli 2014, Dillon, Chris skrev: > > Dear colleagues, > > Since the ICANN London meeting I have been drafting a recommendation document on translation and transliteration of contact information with the much appreciated support of Lars, Julie, Marika Konings and others. I am intending to present it at today?s meeting. I shall circulate it about two hours before the meeting (earlier if possible). I then have another meeting until ours starts, so I will be out of contact. > > The draft is likely to generate quite a bit of discussion. I?m keen that this is largely done in writing to this list, so that new versions may be discussed during our meetings on 31 July and 14 August. I am travelling on 7 August and so can?t make our meeting. It may still be possible to run that meeting, if Rudi is free. > > Incidentally, I had been thinking that we were coming out of our ?read relevant documents? phase, but the drafting has indicated a couple of documents we still need to look at. > > Until later. > > Regards, > > Chris. > -- > Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk Thu Jul 24 08:55:59 2014 From: c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk (Dillon, Chris) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 08:55:59 +0000 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft recommendations and next meetings In-Reply-To: <1406188256714.7861.794@webmail7> References: <2adc093bc4d544f49047ce7b3eacecaf@DB3PR01MB234.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> <1406188256714.7861.794@webmail7> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Please find attached the first draft of the recommendations as mentioned in my last email, a little earlier than promised. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Petter Rindforth [mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu] Sent: 24 July 2014 08:51 To: Dillon, Chris Cc: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft recommendations and next meetings Thanks Chris, Looking forward the draft as soon as possible today. I am at the GNSO Council meeting that starts 2 hours before our meeting, so if ever possible it would be excellent to have the documents before that. I also agree that we can then proceed with some issues by discussing them online between our meetings. "See you" all later on today! Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 24 juli 2014, Dillon, Chris skrev: Dear colleagues, Since the ICANN London meeting I have been drafting a recommendation document on translation and transliteration of contact information with the much appreciated support of Lars, Julie, Marika Konings and others. I am intending to present it at today?s meeting. I shall circulate it about two hours before the meeting (earlier if possible). I then have another meeting until ours starts, so I will be out of contact. The draft is likely to generate quite a bit of discussion. I?m keen that this is largely done in writing to this list, so that new versions may be discussed during our meetings on 31 July and 14 August. I am travelling on 7 August and so can?t make our meeting. It may still be possible to run that meeting, if Rudi is free. Incidentally, I had been thinking that we were coming out of our ?read relevant documents? phase, but the drafting has indicated a couple of documents we still need to look at. Until later. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Peter > "Dillon, Chris" ? 2014/7/24 ??4:55 ??? > > Dear colleagues, > > Please find attached the first draft of the recommendations as mentioned in my last email, a little earlier than promised. > > Regards, > > Chris. > -- > Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon > > From: Petter Rindforth [mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu] > Sent: 24 July 2014 08:51 > To: Dillon, Chris > Cc: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org > Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft recommendations and next meetings > > Thanks Chris, > > Looking forward the draft as soon as possible today. I am at the GNSO Council meeting that starts 2 hours before our meeting, so if ever possible it would be excellent to have the documents before that. > > I also agree that we can then proceed with some issues by discussing them online between our meetings. > > "See you" all later on today! > > Best, > Petter > > -- > Petter Rindforth, LL M > > Fenix Legal KB > Stureplan 4c, 4tr > 114 35 Stockholm > Sweden > Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 > Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 > E-mail: petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu > www.fenixlegal.eu > > > NOTICE > This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. > Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu > Thank you > > 24 juli 2014, Dillon, Chris skrev: > > Dear colleagues, > > Since the ICANN London meeting I have been drafting a recommendation document on translation and transliteration of contact information with the much appreciated support of Lars, Julie, Marika Konings and others. I am intending to present it at today?s meeting. I shall circulate it about two hours before the meeting (earlier if possible). I then have another meeting until ours starts, so I will be out of contact. > > The draft is likely to generate quite a bit of discussion. I?m keen that this is largely done in writing to this list, so that new versions may be discussed during our meetings on 31 July and 14 August. I am travelling on 7 August and so can?t make our meeting. It may still be possible to run that meeting, if Rudi is free. > > Incidentally, I had been thinking that we were coming out of our ?read relevant documents? phase, but the drafting has indicated a couple of documents we still need to look at. > > Until later. > > Regards, > > Chris. > > -- > > Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards Lindsay From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org] On Behalf Of Dillon, Chris Sent: 24 July 2014 09:56 To: petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu; gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org Subject: RE: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft recommendations and next meetings Importance: High Dear colleagues, Please find attached the first draft of the recommendations as mentioned in my last email, a little earlier than promised. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Petter Rindforth [mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu] Sent: 24 July 2014 08:51 To: Dillon, Chris Cc: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Draft recommendations and next meetings Thanks Chris, Looking forward the draft as soon as possible today. I am at the GNSO Council meeting that starts 2 hours before our meeting, so if ever possible it would be excellent to have the documents before that. I also agree that we can then proceed with some issues by discussing them online between our meetings. "See you" all later on today! Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 24 juli 2014, Dillon, Chris > skrev: Dear colleagues, Since the ICANN London meeting I have been drafting a recommendation document on translation and transliteration of contact information with the much appreciated support of Lars, Julie, Marika Konings and others. I am intending to present it at today?s meeting. I shall circulate it about two hours before the meeting (earlier if possible). I then have another meeting until ours starts, so I will be out of contact. The draft is likely to generate quite a bit of discussion. I?m keen that this is largely done in writing to this list, so that new versions may be discussed during our meetings on 31 July and 14 August. I am travelling on 7 August and so can?t make our meeting. It may still be possible to run that meeting, if Rudi is free. Incidentally, I had been thinking that we were coming out of our ?read relevant documents? phase, but the drafting has indicated a couple of documents we still need to look at. Until later. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GAC Justine Chew - Individual Wolf-Ulrich Knoben ? ISPCP Thitikorn Apologies: Jim Galvin ? SSAC ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Amy Bivins Mary Wong Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 24 July 2014: Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP WG meeting on Thursday 24July 2014 Chris Dillon:Hello, all Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:hi Chris Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Hi all Lars Hoffmann:hi chris - i made you presented (as per note that i sent earlier) Chris Dillon:Thank you, Lars. Julie Hedlund:HI everyone -- I'm waiting to get on the call. Chris Dillon:Same here Julie Hedlund:They must have a different meaning for the word "momentarily" since I think its been longer than that now! Chris Dillon:Let's hope they're waiting for the hour Julie Hedlund:Finally in! Nathalie Peregrine:i have awrned the operator Petter Rindforth:Lucky you... Petter Rindforth:I'm here now :-) Mary Wong:@Chris, at least in Singapore we have Arctic-strength airoonditioning :) Chris Dillon:True! Justine Chew:Hi, sorry I'm late in joining. Peter Dernbach:Hello all. Just joined the call. Nathalie Peregrine:Hello, Peter! Justine Chew:No worries, Chris, I for one appreciate your efforts in putting this straw man v6 together! Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Thank you very much Chris Peter Dernbach:Thank you all. Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:thanks... bye all Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone! Have a nice day! Chris Dillon:Goodbye all. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Requiring consistent transformation (allowing use of such information to match other information provided in another context, e.g. to match address information to a registrant on a Google map, etc.) 3. Requiring ad hoc transformation (allowing informal or casual version of the information in another language to provide more general accessibility) The last sentence of the study is of particular interest to us from the accuracy point of view and also from its summary of the state of the transformation tools etc.: "The study has found that provisioning and querying protocols are lacking either support or deployment for internationalized registration data, and that the tools tested are not providing a high level of transformation accuracy and consistency of internationalized registration data." Do we need a better analysis of purposes and accuracy? Does one exist? Incidentally, see https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/7+Studies+and+Background+Documents for links to the reports mentioned above. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jgalvin at afilias.info Sat Jul 26 00:01:51 2014 From: jgalvin at afilias.info (James Galvin) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:01:51 -0400 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] regrets for next two weeks Message-ID: <53D2EFEF.3090509@afilias.info> I will be on vacation and offline the next two weeks and therefore will not make the next two calls. See you all on 14 August 2014. Jim From nathalie.peregrine at icann.org Tue Jul 29 07:46:17 2014 From: nathalie.peregrine at icann.org (Nathalie Peregrine) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:46:17 +0000 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] PLEASE RSVP Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5832a2df9ae24d7289db5eb7facb472e@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG> Reminder: Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session These ongoing monthly sessions are for new GNSO WG participants to come together and discuss any questions they may have about GNSO Working Groups, procedures and/or processes. We know there is a lot of information to digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and these monthly meetings are an opportunity for newcomers and more experienced participants to meet in an informal setting without the pressure of "real work" that needs be done. The agenda is flexible. The presenters will be ready with a standard set of materials if people would like to discuss them. Feel free to submit questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if there is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth . Providing useful answers to a wide range of questions is part of the reason why these meetings are Thursday 7 August at 12.00 UTC Thursday 4 September at 20.00 UTC Thursday 2 October at 12.00 UTC Thursday 6 November at 20.00 UTC Thursday 4 December at 12.00 UTC To convert to your local time zone, please see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html If you are interested to join the next meeting on 7 August or any of the future meetings, please let the GNSO Secretariat know ( gnso-secs at icann.org) and we will send you the call details. If there are any specific questions you already have, or any overviews or introductions you think would be helpful (e.g. GNSO Policy Development Process or GNSO Working Group guidelines), please let us know in advance and we will prepare materials accordingly. Feel free to share this invitation with others that you think may be interested. We look forward to welcoming you at the next meeting! Nathalie Peregrine GNSO Secretariat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5457 bytes Desc: not available URL: From c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk Wed Jul 30 09:31:00 2014 From: c.dillon at ucl.ac.uk (Dillon, Chris) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:31:00 +0000 Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Themes for discussion Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I would like to assemble here some themes for discussion during tomorrow?s call, apart from the purposes/accuracy one that has already come up (see my earlier email below). Here are some other themes I am aware of: ? Should we recommend that there should be an option for registrants voluntarily to input transformed contact information? ? Should we recommend that something be done with legacy transformed contact information (i.e. contact information input using a different policy from what we are recommending)? ? It seems likely that our recommendations for those cases when transformation occurs will not be binding. That would mean, for example, that C5 on when the policy comes into effect would need to be redrafted. ? What should happen to transformed contact information created by other stakeholders? O2 may need redrafting. Please send any additional themes for discussion to this mailing list. I?ve attached the recommendations for your convenience. Regards, Chris. From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org] On Behalf Of Dillon, Chris Sent: 25 July 2014 11:00 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg at icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Purpose and accuracy Dear colleagues, Ideally we need to add something about the purposes of contact information that require accuracy and those that don't. The Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services has a good list of purposes from p.19-34. The Study to evaluate solutions for the submission and display of internationalized contact data has a useful section on Information accuracy for effective use on p.9 with three levels of accuracy suggested: 1. Requiring accurate transformation (e.g. valid in a court of law, matching information in a passport, matching information in legal incorporation etc.) 2. Requiring consistent transformation (allowing use of such information to match other information provided in another context, e.g. to match address information to a registrant on a Google map, etc.) 3. Requiring ad hoc transformation (allowing informal or casual version of the information in another language to provide more general accessibility) The last sentence of the study is of particular interest to us from the accuracy point of view and also from its summary of the state of the transformation tools etc.: "The study has found that provisioning and querying protocols are lacking either support or deployment for internationalized registration data, and that the tools tested are not providing a high level of transformation accuracy and consistency of internationalized registration data." Do we need a better analysis of purposes and accuracy? Does one exist? 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