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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The </span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team teleconference will be held on Thursday 29<sup>th</sup> August 2013 at 1500 UTC. These calls will now take place on a <u>weekly </u>basis.<span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>PLEASE RSVP TO <a href="mailto:GNSO-SECS@ICANN.ORG"><span style='color:red'>GNSO-SECS@ICANN.ORG</span></a> FOR NEXT WEEK’S CALL.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team call held on Thursday 22 August 2013 at 15<span style='color:black'>:00 UTC at:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20130822-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20130822-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may"><span lang=EN-US>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</span></a></span></u><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>aug</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Chris Dillon - NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Rudi Vansnick - NPOC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Vinay Kumar Singh <span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span> individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Amr Elsadr - NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Apologies:</span></u><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>none<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN staff:</span></u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Lars Hoffman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Glen de Saint Gery<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Wiki page:</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx">http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx</a></span><b><span lang=FR> </span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>For GNSO Secretariat<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Adobe Chat Transcript </span></u><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>for Wednesday 22 August 2013:<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></u></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Glen de Saint Gery:Welcome to the Translation and transliteration of Contact Information PDP working Group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Welcome Chris and Vinay<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:Hi Julie<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Hi Julie and Vinay<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:Hi Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:is ok<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Ching Chiao RySG Ching Chiao SOIEdmon Chung RySG Edmon Chung SOIChris Dillon NCSG Chris Dillon SOIAmr Elsadr NCUC Amr Elsadr SOIYoav Keren RrSG Yoav Keren SOIVinay Kumar Singh Individual Vinay Kumar Singh SOIRudi Vansnick <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:No<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:How about adding this text? "The PDP-WG will not be limited to considering the above alternatives, but will be encouraged to consider all possible alternatives."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Very nice<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:To following immediately below the bullets.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:that's why it is important we could receive input before finalizing the charter from people having experience with IDN's such as Edmon Chung <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Thank you Rudi. They are on the DT. We can ask them specifically to comment too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:By "they" I mean both Edmon Chung and Ching Chao.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:indeed Julie<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Amr Elsadr has joined the call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:welcome Amr<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:The toll free number to dial in in the U.S. is not working. Can I get a confirmation on the number please?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Hi Rudi. Still haven't dialled in.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:thanks a lot for the clarification Julie<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:Julie, thats sound good<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:Julie, thats sound good<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Here is some suggested text to add after the first sentence: "The PDP-WG also may consult with ICANN Legal staff when considering alternatives."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Can I speak using Adobe connect by connecting Audio?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:I think so.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Thnx Chris.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:good point Amr <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:How about this? "In addition, the PDP-WG should review the work of other PDPs relating to IDNs and WHOIS."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Sounds good, Julie.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:I think that rather than listing specific PDPs we could just leave it open.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Okay<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:I can pull these from the wiki as a start<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:They all are on the GNSO wiki both past and present<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:thanks Julie, good idea, you're great ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:;)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:I think its good now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:Probably I will go once again through the document and list down the legal issues that would may arise during the policy development<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Thank you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Chris and Rudi, I think that what you have said is right. The WG cannot decide who will bear the burden, but can suggest who should take that decision.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:They could suggest that the registrar should bear the burden, but since this is a policy issue it could say that the Board could make that decision.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Yes, there are legal considerations as Rudi points out.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:I agree with Rudi, because their will be legal implications in those scenarios<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:perhaps the easiest solution exists in asking the registrant to do the translation themself<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:I think I'm beginning to understand the complexity of the issue. If you all don't mind, I'll try to look into this a bit further, and perhaps continue the discussion on the mailing list if I come up with something.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Many thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:sure i was just thinking loud<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:so we have a tasklist for the next days<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:Just to add, I am a Law Student :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr::D<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:i'll take on mine to try to convince Edmon and Ching to help us with their experiences <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:can we still add others ?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Yes, of course!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:If you have others you want to encourage that would be great.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:This DT is not limited.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:ok<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Thanks everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Thank you all!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Goodbye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Vinay Kumar Singh:Thanks <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Goodbye<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>