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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 14 August at 1300 UTC at:<span style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140814-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140814-en.mp3</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span lang=FR style='color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Emily Taylor - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Chris Dillon – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Amr Elsadr – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Rudi Vansnick – NPOC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jennifer Chung - RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jim Galvin – SSAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Wolf-Ulrich Knoben – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Wanawit Ahkuputra – GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mae Suchayapim Siriwat – GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Patrick Lenihan - NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Apologies: </span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>Petter Rindforth – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Iliya Bazlyankov – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white'>Julie Hedlund </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Amy Bivins<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been le</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ft off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Wiki page:</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx"><span lang=FR>http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx</span></a><b> </b></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>GNSO Secretariat <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Adobe Chat Transcript for </span></u><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thursday 14 August 2014:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span> Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working group call on the 14th August 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:hi everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Hello all!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:just back from holidays <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:very limited internet access during 2 weeks is painful ... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Hi all. Apologies about the prolonged absence. Hope you're all well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome back Rudi and Amr!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jennifer Chung:Hello everyone!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:This is my first call participating in the working group. I come from Registrar SG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Welcome!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:welcome Emily <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thank you. And thanks for the draft papers, Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:I am in the process of getting on the call. Called in but got dropped.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Back on<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jennifer Chung:I have updated my SOI - to include my wgs and picture<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jennifer Chung:sorry couldn't connect audio just now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:thanks Jennifer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:The document is unsynced.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Patrick Lenihan has joined the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Can the document be shared in the AC Room?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Sorry - acronym check - what's IRD?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Internationalized Registration Data.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor::) Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Pardon me -- which document is being referenced? I did not catch it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Is your concern about this WG recommending that IRD be provided as an option for registrants?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:I can hear you! but I'm not able to be heard. Sorry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Agree with Jim Galvin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Emily, we can dial out to you if you provide me with a contact number<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:on the costs and unintended consequences of two tracks of data, not knowing which is authoritative, and the legacy issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:I see Amr's question - I don't see IRD as being the optional bit, but a translation/transliteration as being optional<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thanks for clarification Chris. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:I also got some feedback from our technical people, who were also questioning the value of having transliteration, and the difficulties/costs for registrars to have to validate such data<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Emily: I believe those concerns are reflected in the proposed recommendations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:I think they are too :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thanks for that, Chris. Very useful. One other thing (that may already be incorporated in your thinking), is that even to have an option to transliterate/translate will mean creation of new database fields, and potentially lengthening and complicating the process of registration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Ah. Thanks Chris.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thanks Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:LOL<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Isn't legacy transformed contact information presumably already validated?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr::)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Ok back to typing<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Everything you say is very sensible, Chris. My concern is that even setting flags to indicate that data is legacy or not will introduce costs for registrars potentially<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Is this something that has already been discussed?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thanks. LIke others, I just got back from holiday, and would like to share with other members of the RrSG who manage large databases<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:to get their views<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:I (with my limited knowledge) agree with Emily. I'm also not exactly sure what purpose it would serve.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thanks Jim. Appreciate the clarification<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:it looks like it is important to have clear view on the data model requests and the need for futher investigation on this topic<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Agree <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:OK. Thanks. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:I'm wondering if there is a sense about the level of consensus amongst the WG on the proposed recommendations?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:very good question Jim ... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Apologies, but I have to leave to join another call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:requires a lot of thinking ... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:Thanks everyone!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:thanks Julie <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:To borrow from the Dispute Resolution world, it could also be language of the Registrar agreement :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:I have to leave for another call. See you next week.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Rudi Vansnick:thanks to you Chris for the great work <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thank you for your comments and chairing, Chris. Very useful call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Chris and all. Bye.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jennifer Chung:Thank you Chris and everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Thanks for attending and participating, everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Thank you very much indeed!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>