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RySG<span style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Justine Chew – <span style='background:white'>Individual<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Petter Rindforth – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Amr Elsadr – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Emily Taylor – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Pitinan Kooarmornpatana – GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Mae Suchayapim Siriwat – GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Wanawit Ahkuputra – GAC</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Apologies:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>None<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been le</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>ft off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Wiki page:</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><a href="http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx"><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx</span></a><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>GNSO Secretariat <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Adobe Chat Transcript for <b>Thursday 11 December 2014:<o:p></o:p></b></span></u></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew: Dear all, Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG call on 11 December 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Hi all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Hi Amr<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome Mae Suchayapim Siriwat<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome Justine Chew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:There's a spelling mistake on page 3. I can point that out on-list.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Chris: Not a lot as far as I could tell. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Chris - a small point, my name seems to have fallen off the list of participants.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:+1 to Amr suggestion<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:+1 from me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Replace "not be qualified to check it" with:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thanks Chris - no problem. Version control always a nightmare!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:lack the language skills to accurately validate the contact information. This could create unresolvable difficulties in fulfilling contractual requirements between registrants and registrars as well as between registrars and ICANN.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:I'm ok when it comes to mandatory <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Oh. I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about not mandatory!! :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:I lost track of where we are as I was typing my comment above. Help? :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:I want it to be in this initial report<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1. The last bullet seems very speculative to me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:Can someone who supports mandatory position say something?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:Does the 5th bullet point under non-mandatory counter address the last 2 bullet points under mandatory?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Agree, Chris. It's a horrible term, and I don't think that its meaning is particularly clear even if you spell out the acronym.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:But it would be good if we just explain what we're talking about<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Justine: I don't think so. It only addresses the limitations of usefulness to language users, but not the issue of cross referencing and behaviour of bad actors.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:@Chris, sure, thanks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:@Chris, @Amr: Thanks, just checking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:So I am happy Chris will look at this further.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Think it is fairly expressed, Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Emily: +1. If we want to make it clearer that we are seeking the public comment to better inform the consensus call, that could be added.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: I would like full consensus too, but we would need to identify a middle ground that does not involve mandatory transformation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: We'd need your guidance and help on how that could be achieved.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:I'll come back on that next year ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr::-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:I support Jim's comment on "significant majority and distinct minority"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:From a quantitative analysis perspective, "signifcant" is associated with statistical significant. No objection to removing the word. :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:@Amr: Do we then get onto clear or absolute majority?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:I don't mind just using majority and minority without the adjectives. Significant, the way we use it, seems rather subjective in its meaning.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:I'm ok with "clear" if we have to add<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:ok. thanks Chris for the clarity (splitting hairs). I get it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:i'm okay with dropping majority.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:Drop the adjectives.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:@Chris: LOL!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:close of business everywhere. :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Very true.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:We never really had that discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:I have a hard stop today at the top of the hour. I will need drop off in just a couple minutes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Chris..., you're breaking up on my end.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:@Amr, @Jim, @Chris: I sort of recall some discussion taking place which reflect what Jim has said. But yes, that has not been included in this document.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Is anyone else having trouble with the AC room audio?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:The tech guides for the AC room is not translated... ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:I need to go. Are we meeting next week?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Amr, please letme know and we can have the op dial out to you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julie Hedlund:I apologize everyone. I have to drop off for another call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:Good idea to keep the meeting next week, even if it will be a short one<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Justine Chew 2:@Chris: I have a formatting request, please change all references to "WG" and "Group" to "Working Group" for consistency sake?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Sorry. Was disconnected for a few minutes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Emily Taylor:Thanks Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Bye all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Dillon:Goodbye everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Petter Rindforth:Thanks and buy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Peter Green <span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>（</span>CONAC<span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>）</span>:bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Wanawit Ahkuputra:Bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>