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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear All,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 26 February 2015 at 14:00 UTC at:<span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
</span></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-26feb15-en.mp3"><span lang="EN-US">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-26feb15-en.mp3</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#feb<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chris Dillon – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin - RySG<span style="background:white">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick – NPOC
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jennifer Chung – RySG<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Roger Carney – RrSG<br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Peter Green – NCUC<br>
Sara Bockey – RrSG<br>
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana – GAC<br>
Wanawit Ahkuputra - GAC<br>
Wen Zhai - RySG<br>
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</span><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Apologies:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Emily Taylor – RrSG<br>
Petter Rindforth – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Peter Dernbach- IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Julie Hedlund - Staff<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Howard Li<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Glen de Saint Géry<br>
Gisella Gruber<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wiki page:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx">http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx</a><b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Glen
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Glen de Saint Géry
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">GNSO Secretariat
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://gnso.icann.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<u>Adobe Chat Transcript for <b>Thursday 26 February 2015:<o:p></o:p></b></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Browallia New",sans-serif">็</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gisella Gruber:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration Contact Information PDP WG on Thursday 26 February 2015 at 1400 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Hi Hi :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:somehow I cannot connect to the local Mic.only the dial up option available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chris Dillon:Hello Pitinan & Wanawit!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lars Hoffmann:hello all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chris Dillon:Hi Lars!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:ah need to try log in agian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:brb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jennifer Chung:Hello everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Gisella Gruber:@ Pitinan - the mic has been enabled so you should be able to speak through your computer mic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Glen de Saint Gery:Rudi will be late joining<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Thanks :) I thought it was my mic problem for a while , thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Howard Li:I am on listen only mode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lars Hoffmann:@howard: would you like a dial out?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Howard Li:this is Howard Li, ICANN Staff, Registrar Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Howard Li:I am OK on listen only mode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Glen de Saint Gery:Apologies from Julie Hedlund as well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:@Glen: Hope all's well with Julie.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Ah. Thanks. I'll check the wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Is what we're looking at here an updated version?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:Jim is now on the call. Sorry to be late.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Can the document be desynched please?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lars Hoffmann:@amr - done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr::)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:welcome Jim and others of course ... sorry for myself being late<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:The intent of the email address is to ensure contactability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:However, there are practical issues, as you note Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Peter Green (CONAC):Sorry for being late too, lose connectivity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:Amr: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Wen Zhai:I'm terribly sorry that i am late.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:no problem Wen, welcome anyway<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Wen Zhai:Good evening to everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Hi Wen Zhai.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Wen Zhai:Good evening Amr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:hi :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Looks like the RrSG/RySG are also trying to shift the cost to some easy to us automated solution. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:*easy to use<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:easy to use not equal to quality which is important in
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">the context of value of the data to third parties<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Yes Rudi. Certainly. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:i would propose we clearly indicate there are free tools but without any guarantee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:I believe the answer to question 50 is out of scope of this PDP. We're only chartered to determine wether it's desirable to transform, not how.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:+1 Amr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:+1 Amr for the translation part<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:but for the cost , i do think it's not really about fee, but the liabilities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:i mean not only about fee, but also the liabilities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:@Pitinan : you're right ... fee is less critical then the translated value<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:I think the issue the RrSG/RySG are getting at is the feasibility of doing it, which is mostly out of scope for us but I do think we get to speak
to this issue generally.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:@Chris: Agreed, but limiting our answer to why we believe it is desirable or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jennifer Chung:+1 Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:@Pitinan: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:A characteristic of "desirable" is whether or not it is feasible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Yes, Jim. Absolutely. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:That's the level at which we get to speak to the question of "how".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:That's what I meant in my response to Chris. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:for #51, I think 1. yes the validity translation will need people, at least for many years for now. 2. and the tranformed address need
to be agreeed by the Data Owner --> registrant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sara Bockey:+1 Rudi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:+1 with Rudi, and +1 with Amr earlier with the focus on 'who should decide'<br>
Rudi Vansnick:maybe it is something we need to put in the beginning of our report information<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:no comments ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:I start to think it's really no point transforming. because:If we need it unofficially, then it could be easily transformed by free
tool without guarantee. And If we need it officially, then we need the validated one, in whatever lanauge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Was disconnected for a minute, but wanted to support Rudi's last comment. If a policy recommendation we make required contracted parties to send
registrant contact data to 3rd parties conflicts with some local privacy laws, this might prove problematic. Another good reason why transformation may be undesirable. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Sending could also mean cross-boarder transfer of data. From jurisdictions with higher data privacy laws to others with lower ones.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:+1 with Amr , interesting issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:This is an ongoing issue with the implementation of the "thick" whois policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:There is an ongoing legal review being performed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:I think withholding consent is refering to publication of the transformed data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:This is another policy question that needs to be answered, but not by this PDP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:refers back to the previous points ... and if today the WHOIS is changed there are also updates done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: Technically we could add to their responsibilites, but they obviously don't want us to. I don't want us to either, in the absence of good
reasons why we should.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:@Amr: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:+1 Amr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:@Amr +1 - I would add that the change needs to be logged and tracked.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:@Chris - validating the transformation is reasonable but that's a different thing then what is referred to here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:@Jim, only if there is some standard way of transforming<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:Yes, I meant "a reasonable topic for discussion" not that I meant it was reasonable to do. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Ah. Thanks Jim. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:i c<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Howard Li:thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sara Bockey:Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Thank you all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin:Thanks! Bye!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:bye<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Wanawit Ahkuputra GAC:Sawasdee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chris Dillon:Goodbye all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick:goodbye till next week<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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