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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear All,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 5 March 2015 at 14:00 UTC at:<span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chris Dillon – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin - RySG<span style="background:white">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Amr Elsadr – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rudi Vansnick – NPOC
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Roger Carney – RrSG<span style="color:black"><br>
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana – GAC<br>
Wanawit Ahkuputra - GAC</span><br>
Petter Rindforth – IPC<br>
Justine Chew - Individual<span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><u>Apologies:<o:p></o:p></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Emily Taylor – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Howard Li<br>
Julie Hedlund – Staff<br>
Lars Hoffmann<br>
Glen de Saint Géry<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wiki page:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Adobe Chat Transcript for <b>Thursday 5 March 2015:<br>
</b></span></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Glen de Saint Gery:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration Contact Information PDP WG on Thursday 5 March 2015 at 1400 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Hi all
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Chris Dillon:Hello all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:hi hi hi :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lars Hoffmann:hello everybody<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:good morning, good afternoon, good evening to all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:it is not impossible i will be dropped of adobe sometimes as the provider is executing upgrades of the network in my street
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:they promised if it happens it would be a short cut off<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lars Hoffmann:dear all - a full document with 'responses' will be circulated tomorrow.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Lars. Really appreciate it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:let's try to get through the full list of comments today and then produce an update
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jim Galvin:+1 amr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jim Galvin:anxiously waiting for summary...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Justine Chew:+1 Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. What number are we on?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:58<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Rudi.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jim Galvin:careful about references to law enforcement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:I think my point was specifically about LEA requests may not specifically be actual legal requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Justine Chew:+1 Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Jim makes a good point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:I'm not in favor of using this term. DNR-DS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:agree with Amr : the charter says WHOIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Petter Rindforth:Thats even better<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:good proposal Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jim Galvin:Well, I would argue that not everyone understands it. That's why we need new terminology.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jim Galvin:WHOIS is one of 3 things and that's the confusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Wasn't there that market study that Sarmad was involved in - on available systems that automate transformation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:it seems there would be a need to identify if the data is translated or transliterated
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:@Chris: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:I believe this was the finding of the study.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:would require an additional tag
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:If I'm not mistaken "uniform" is specified in the RAA. I need to go back and check that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:+1 @jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Are you suggesting that all present and future users are proficient in English or another Latin-based script? :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:The Arab world?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Petter Rindforth:When it comes to pure business & legal aspects, yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Not true Petter. There are many local services in Egypt that are provided online in Arabic. There is no reason to assume that the consumers of
these services speak English or other languages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case in other countries using other languages/scirpts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:I'm missing the association between the issues pertaining to trademarks/lists of goods and services, and contact data in the whois. Not sure I
understand this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Why are we discussing mechanisms? We're supposed to be discussing desirability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Petter Rindforth:It's an example of automatic translation that works and is accepted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Ah Thanks. Missed that point, which changes the context for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:wil still have to cover 14 points and as we are close to the hour i think we will need another session
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Yes. The ability to actually do something will impact its desirability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:do we deliver an updated document next week ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lars Hoffmann:yes rudi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:I thought we'd get it tomorrow?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:OK. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:thanks lars
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Rudi Vansnick:many thanks, hear you all next week<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Roger Carney:Thanks!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Thanks all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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