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Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 19 March 2015 at 14:00 UTC at:<o:p></o:p></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-19mar15-en.mp3" style="font-size: medium;"><font face="Calibri">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-19mar15-en.mp3</font></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Chris Dillon – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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SaraBockey – RrSG<br>
Peter Green – NCUC<br>
Wen Zhai - RySG<br>
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana – GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Howard Li</div>
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</span><u><span lang="EN-US">Adobe Chat Transcript for <b>Thursday 19 March 2015:<br>
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<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group on Thursday, 19 March 2015.</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:on hold waiting to join call</div>
<div> pitinan kooarmornpatana:hello all</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:listening on adobeconnect at the moment</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Hi all.</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:@ Jim, I have warned the operator to take bells</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:and now on the call, yeah</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Apologies about not being able to go through all the review tool WG responses. I'll try to finish that up over the weekend.</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Sorry to hear that Chris. Feel better.</div>
<div> Chris Dillon:Thankyou</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Internationally readable seems hard to define to me, although I suspect I understand what FICPI is referring to.</div>
<div> Justine Chew:Hi all, apologies for being late.</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:readable might just mean accessible. it doesn't necessarily mean understood.</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:adding internationally to readable does not necessary imply universally readable, but I suspect that FICPI intended on something to that end.</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Being cognisant that universally readable is also impossible to achieve. :)</div>
<div> Petter Rindforth:I think we have to accept that "internationally" is the best way, noting that it will be impossible to make it "universally"</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Apologies Chris, what's the question?</div>
<div> Chris Dillon:<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/ird/ird-draft-final-10mar15-en.pdf">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/ird/ird-draft-final-10mar15-en.pdf</a></div>
<div> Jim Galvin:yes it was done manually</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:speaking as chair of that group</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:they do have some automation but we cleaned it up for the document</div>
<div> Justine Chew:What was cleaned up?</div>
<div> Wen Zhai:Good evening everybody~ Sorry i'm late. Forgot to update adobe.</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Just thought the fast food example was an amusing one. :)</div>
<div> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:+1 :)</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:I can not speak to the specifics of the transformation. I don't recall.</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:I'm am slightly amused , in a good way, that Chris is picking apart the example.</div>
<div> Justine Chew:Right, so there is still automation solution which knows when to translate and when to transliterate.</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:The only thing I think of to say is that we're trying to make a point. Perhaps there are better examples but as I'm sure you can appreciate it it is all very difficult.</div>
<div> Justine Chew:Sorry, I mean so there is still no automation solution which knows when to translate and when to transliterate.</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:Hopefully, you're not going to suggest we explain all this in our final document, where "this" is what you're saying. :-)</div>
<div> Jim Galvin:Also note we're trying to show an ideallyc final solution. Whether or not it is achievable is a separate question. :-)</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Jim..., you might as well. :)</div>
<div> Chris Dillon:chiyoda faasuto biru nishi kanda chiyodaku toukyou</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:An amusing attempt at transforming Arabic to English:<a href="https://snarla.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/its-less-funny-when-you-can-read-the-arabic/">https://snarla.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/its-less-funny-when-you-can-read-the-arabic/</a></div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Haven't gone through this yet, but very eager to do so. Will try to go through it asap. Thanks for all the work from the IRD-EWG.</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:@Chris: That makes sense to me. Thanks.</div>
<div> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.</div>
<div> Sara Bockey:Thank you everyone</div>
<div> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Thanks all, bye</div>
<div> Justine Chew:Cheers.</div>
<div> Wen Zhai:Bye all.</div>
<div> Chris Dillon:Thank you all.</div>
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