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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 23 April 2015
at 13:00 UTC at: </span><o:p></o:p></font><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-23apr15-en.mp3" style="font-size: medium;"><font face="Calibri">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-23apr15-en.mp3</font></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">On page: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:blue">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr</span></a><o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Master Calendar page:</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;
text-underline:none">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Attendees:</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Chris Dillon ¡V NCSG</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Jim Galvin - RySG</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Amr Elsadr ¡V NCUC Petter Rindforth ¡V IPC Justine Chew ¡V Individual Sara Bockey ¡V RrSG Peter Green ¡V NCUC Wen Zhai - RySG</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Wanawit Ahkuputra - GAC</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Roger Carney - RrSG</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana ¡V GAC</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Pascal Haddad - Individual</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"> </font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><u><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Apologies:</span></u><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Peter Dernbach - IPC<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Rudi Vansnick ¡V NPOC <o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3"><u><span style="font-family: Calibri;">ICANN Staff</span></u><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Glen de St Gery<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"> </font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"> <o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"> Wiki page:
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none">http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx</span></a><o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3"> <o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Nathalie<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">Adobe Chat Transcript for <b>Thursday 23 April 2015:</b><o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;">Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group on Thursday, 23 April 2015.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Chris Dillon:Hello, Nathalie</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Wanawit Ahkuputra GAC:Sawasdee Chris , Nathalie</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Hello all!</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Chris Dillon:Hello, Wanawit.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Wen Zhai:Good evening, everyone:)</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Chris Dillon:Hello, Wen.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Chris Dillon:A lovely bright afternoon in London.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Hello, sorry for the late</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Hello Pitinan, welcome</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Justine Chew:Thanks Chris.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:Hi all.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:@Chris: If you insist. :)</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:If not available online, I can quickly make a presentation</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Could you clarify the intent of the change here?</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:desirability vs. need?</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:document is up - apologies for the delay</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Agree. Also, if the WG deems that there is no need for mandatory transformation, why wouldn't it be desirable?</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:It may be most practical to discuss it online</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:@amr +1</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:Great. And Thanks again Petter.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:Not sure I understand what is meant by marking. Could this please be clarified?</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Peter Green ¡]CONAC¡^:@Amr¡Ait is my understanding that marking means labeling the languages of the fields of the data elements</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:Roman numbers are I, II, III. 1, 2 and 3 are actually Arabic numerals.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:Roman being Latin.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:right, thanks Amr! mea culpa</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Peter Green ¡]CONAC¡^:thanks Chris for clarification</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Sara Bockey:Agree with Amr</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:We just need to be careful to word things consistently with existing contracts and requirements.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:A registrant's email address is verified, so that registration of the domain name is not possible until the applicant verifies that the email is indeed his/hers/its. Registrars would
be in violation of RAA requrierments if they do not perform this check. And it's irrespective of the language issue.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:In particular, not overstate, i.e., guaranteeing that a registrant is contact-able.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:Yes, Amr, but that is only initially. Many then change without update - as they need to do per their contract</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Yes, but I'm still not seeing the correlation with this PDP. There is also the issue of privacy/proxy services making it more difficult to contact registrants. All issues
irrespective of languages/scripts.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Pascal Haddad:hello eveybody and sorry for being late</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Justine Chew:@Petter, not necessariily only initially. Email is also used for domain name subscription renewal notices. But I agree with Amr, the "contactability" issue is independent to transformation.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:That (70) is in fact our reply to what Amr just said</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: There is also an assumption here that transformation will be accurate/useful.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:At some point, we will need to rework the language in the recommendations of the final report (based on these discussions).</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:Agree</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:Can the doc on the screen be desynched?</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Justine Chew:Cheers</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Sara Bockey:thank you all</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Pascal Haddad:Thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:bye, thanks all</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Pascal Haddad:Bye</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Peter Green ¡]CONAC¡^:bye all</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Julie Hedlund:Thanks everyone -- Goodbye!</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Chris Dillon:Many thanks.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: medium;"> Wen Zhai:Bye</div>
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