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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday
</span>30 April <span style="color:black">2015 at 13:00 UTC at: </span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-30apr15-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-30apr15-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0pt"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Master Calendar page:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Chris Dillon – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Jim Galvin - RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Amr Elsadr – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Petter Rindforth – IPC
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Sara Bockey – RrSG
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Peter Green – NCUC
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Wen Zhai - RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Wanawit Ahkuputra - GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana – GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Pascal Haddad – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;background:white">Ubolthip Sethakaset - Individual</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Apologies:</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Justine Chew – Individual
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Rudi Vansnick – NPOC <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">ICANN Staff</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Lars Hoffmann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Wiki page: </span>
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Adobe Chat Transcript for <b>Thursday
</b></span></u><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">30 April <span style="color:black">
2015:<o:p></o:p></span></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group on Thursday, 30 April 2015.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jim Galvin:Jim Galvin has just joined<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Jim Galvin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Petter Rindforth:Cannot read the coloured response comments<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Amr Elsadr<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks Terri.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Hi all.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lars Hoffmann:here is a link to the word document. i will see if i can upload a different colour right now.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lars Hoffmann:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53772762/Public%20comment%20review%20tool%20TT%20Initial%20Report%20V8.5.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1430304578000&api=v2<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Petter Rindforth:thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lars Hoffmann:highilights should be fixed - and the document is un-synched.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:Hi all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Pitinan Kooarmorapatana and Pascal Haddad<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:We should collect the ideas we have on possible improvements that are out of scope, and include them in one or more recommendations to be included in the issues report of the post-EWG PDP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pascal Haddad:Hi Everybody<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Not seeing the WG member responses in the doc being shared.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Hi Pascal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Ah. OK Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. Where are we?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pascal Haddad:Amr I m sorry to interrupt but I would like to call you at your convenience
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pascal Haddad:to share some ideas<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:@Chris: Yes. An error that you have corrected. Apologies. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Seems out of scope to me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lars Hoffmann:@amr: it's of course up to the group to decide. it's just how i (and other staff) would see it.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Recommending a policy of machine readabiltiy involves technical structure of the database, and display capabilities of whois search services. Right?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jim Galvin:@amr - machine readability is about the structure of the data in transit - eg using XML<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:I'm not saying it's a bad idea, just that it warrants more discussion before being a PDP WG recommendation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jim Galvin:display can then do what they want and third party applications can do what they want. this is the point of the WEIRDS work, the reaplcement for WHOIS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jim Galvin:third party apps include transformation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:They need to be within the recommendations, just mandated to another PDP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:agree with Amr <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jim Galvin:yes, push forward to another PDP. the point is not to let the issues get lost or forgotten.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pascal Haddad:exactly Jim<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Petter Rindforth:It is in fct very helpful for all new WG's to have some kind of summary and recommendations from previous WGs, even if those recommendations are not formal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:@Petter: Yes. The historical context is always helpful. Serves as a guide to drafting of issues reports and WG charters as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:on 55 , i'm not sure if the question means , change of address ... not just correct the typo?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:i might not sure the intension of the question
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:is the change an approved means
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:1.change the trasliteration coz it doesn't transform correctly ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:or <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:2. change the name of the street name coz he moves the house<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:okie then <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:As I pointed out to Lars before, the accurate transliteration of Cairo would be something like "Alqahira". The translation of "Alqahira" would be the female form of "The omnipotent conqueror". :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:that's why may be the 'transform' is preffered . which may = mapping<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana::)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Petter Rindforth:well, well....<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr::)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Petter Rindforth:let's discuss that further off line ;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Sure thing. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:This comment was raised by the IPC as far back as the webinar that was held on the initial report, but we haven't addressed it yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:I think we need to do some homework on this one. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lars Hoffmann:i can pull up the other version if you like me to.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Whoops. I forgot to check on an alternative to that. Apologies.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:What question are we on?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Technically, it isn't unlimited. It is limited by the number of scripts/languages that exist. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Was there a first version of the final report? I must have missed it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lars Hoffmann:everybody - i have to log off to join another call. will catch the rest on the reconrding. and will stay in the AC room o too. vetalk to you all soon!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Wen Zhai:Bye Lars~<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:@Chris: OK. Thanks. That'd be helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Bye Lars.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Pitinan Kooarmorapatana:Thanks all <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Petter Rindforth:Thanks for today<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Wen Zhai:Bye all.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jim Galvin:Thanks bye!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sara Bockey:bye all, thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Chris Dillon:Good bye, everyone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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