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<div style="font-size: medium;">Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG call on the 4th June 2015</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:Hello everybody - just dialing in now.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Chris Dillon:Hello Lars & everyone!</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:Hello all.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Noted, thank you!</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:document is not un-synched.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:*now</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Rec #4 - "through the help of language tags" I suggest should be "through the help of language *and script" tags".</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:RDAP is a protocol. It does not store.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:RFC 7480 if i'm not wrong</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Yes, that wors</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:^wors^works</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Justine Chew:Is RDAP spelt out anywhere earlier in the report?</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Justine Chew:*Sorry, haven't had time to look at this V4-2*</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:@Justine: a reference to that will be put (footnote or somewhere else)</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:*justine - i beleive it is spelled out.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:However, instead of RDAP maybe we should use "WHOIS replacement system".</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:well, you know what the script could be, since it's not necessarily unique and unambiguous.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Some languages are supported by multiple scripts. I think this is solveable algorithmically. Not absolutely certain yet but others have told me this should be the case.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Nathalie Peregrine:Please all mute your phones and mics when not speaking</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:Just so that we are clear. If changing a word in one plce it has to be fully replaced</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:I guess what I'm saying is +1 Lars. Withdraw comment to add "scripts" to example.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Green (CONAC):Sorry, again being late</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:RDAP is more in the IETF field while WHOIS is more recognised in ICANN </div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Rec 6 - again - RDAP to WHOIS Replacement System.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:@Jim: +1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:and probably "database" to "database system"</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:"database" comment is "rec #7"</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:store works for database / database system</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Would we consider a "Finding" as opposed to a "non-recommendation"? Truly just a question.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:I suggest "should lie" to be changed to "may lie"</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:I would prefer we be more specific with the statement. So, I prefer "should" to "may"</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:@Jim: +1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Roger Carney:@Jim +1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:But in Recommendation #5 we consider that registrars may wish to perform transofrmation. In those cases there may not be a "requestor."</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Wouldn't the registrar be the requestor in that case?</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Rather than being "moot", why don't we answer the question regardless and call it a recommendation?</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:thanks LArs</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:I would suggest that "Non-Recommendation 8" become a "Finding" and we just leave the first sentence in the current draft, deleting the second sentence (currently in red).</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:@peter - agree with Peter because the sentence is actually already in Rec #1.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:also could be ust 'transformation lies with' ...</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:I think that also exceeds the scope of our charter, which was to determine who should decide who bears the burden, not to decide who bears the burden.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:I appreciate, though, that this is a minority opinion.</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:but we are making that suggestion in recommendation 1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:@lars - +1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:we can also just call it :finding in relation to charter question 2'</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:@Lars +1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Sara Bockey:Could we just delete Non-Recommendation and have it just be a new paragraph stating: Based on recommendations 1-7...</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:just avoid transformation is done without the approval of the registrant engaging the registrant in an eventual legal action</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:Even the second RDAP shoudl be "whois replacement system"</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:@chris +1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:+1</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:we did Chris</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:? what standards ?</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:i think so</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Lars Hoffmann:<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-07apr11-en.pdf">http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-07apr11-en.pdf</a></div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:great work done</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Peter Dernbach:Thank you Chris, Lars and all!</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Jim Galvin:thanks! bye all!</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Sara Bockey:thank you everyone</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Rudi Vansnick:have a nice day</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Petter Rindforth:The same</div>
<div style="font-size: medium;"> Chris Dillon:Brilliant sunshine in London for once</div>
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