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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you Mouhamet, I have this noted<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Terri<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Mouhamet Diop [mailto:mouhamet@next.sn] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Terri Agnew<br><b>Cc:</b> gnso-dmpm-wg@icann.org; gnso-secs@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-dmpm-wg] MP3 DMPM - Tuesday 04 March 2014 at 2100 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Apologies from Mouhamet Diop as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Mouhamet Diop RrSG (Registrar Constituency) - Traveling (on the plane) at that time without connectivity .<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mouhamet Diop<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2014-03-05 16:44 GMT+00:00 Terri Agnew <<a href="mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org" target="_blank">terri.agnew@icann.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call held on Tuesday 04 March 2014 at 21:00 UTC at:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20140304-en.mp3" target="_blank">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20140304-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On page: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar%23mar" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u>Attendees:</u> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mikey O’Connor - ISPCP<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Marinel Rosca - Individual<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Tony Onorato - IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Pam Little – NTAG <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andrew Merriam - NTAG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jonathan Zuck - IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Robb Schecter - BC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Caleb Kow - NCUC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kayode Yussuf - IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Rudi Vansnick - NPOC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Janiver Ngnoulaye - At-Large<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Migel Angel Gomez Zotano - Individual<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Gabriel Vergara - NCUC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u>Apologies:</u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Abhijith Jayanthi – BC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u>ICANN staff:</u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Berry Cobb<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mailing list archives<span style='color:#1F497D'>: <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/" target="_blank">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=FR>Wiki page<span style='color:#1F497D'> :</span> <span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag</a> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=FR> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><u>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 04 March 2014:</u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p>Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group on 04 March 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p> Marinel Rosca:Hello everybody<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:Hi Marinel! welcome. <o:p></o:p></p><p> Marinel Rosca:Thank you<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:Welcome Robb<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Kayode Yussuf has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p> Kayode Yussuf:hello everybody <o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Rudi Vansnick has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:sorry for being late, got wrong adobe connect link <o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Janvier Ngnoulaye has joined audio<o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:Staff is also happy to answer any questions about process or participation in WG. You can email directly or send a note to <a href="mailto:policy-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">policy-staff@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><p> Caleb Kow:Hi this is Caleb<o:p></o:p></p><p> Caleb Kow:sorry i cant turn on my microphone.. its 5am in Singapore now and i am trying not to wake the family up :)<o:p></o:p></p><p> Caleb Kow:Sure thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mary Wong:My sympathies (and Cheryl's as well, I know) - we've shared your "pain" :)<o:p></o:p></p><p> Caleb Kow:Thanks Mary :)<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Janvier Ngnoulaye has joined adobe<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Miguel Angel Gomez Zotano has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p> miguel.angel.gomez.zotano:can you listen to me?<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Miguel you need to active your mic<o:p></o:p></p><p> miguel.angel.gomez.zotano:can you listen to me now?<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mary Wong:To activate your mic in Adobe Connect, go to ttelephone icon on top and click on Connect My Audio.<o:p></o:p></p><p> miguel.angel.gomez.zotano:i will try to use headphones<o:p></o:p></p><p> miguel.angel.gomez.zotano:i am going for them to try at the end<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mary Wong:Then choose either join the audio bridge (whch requires you to dial in or get a dial out) or choose Microphone (computer/device). <o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:the audio connect works always fine for me <o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:and if not i'm using skype to call in <o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Miguel we can also dial out to you if you provide us your phone number<o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:if the audio is used by another application, you will have problems with the audio connect<o:p></o:p></p><p> miguel.angel.gomez.zotano:0032478548032<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:we will dial out to you<o:p></o:p></p><p> miguel.angel.gomez.zotano:you can phone me at this number<o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:miguel seems to be close to me (Belgium) <o:p></o:p></p><p> miguel.angel.gomez.zotano:yes<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:ok hang on - <o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:i've got levels on my mac ...<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:huh funny<o:p></o:p></p><p> Janvier Ngnoulaye:No voice ?<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:ah hah<o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:my mac works perfect ... no probs <o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:weird - yep - getting a good mic level...<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:ok.<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:i'll call in and then circle around to me...<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter::-)<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Miguel has joined telephone<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Robb if you need us to dial out to you, let me know your telephone<o:p></o:p></p><p> Kayode Yussuf:This is really a high powered team<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Please remember to mute your mics when not speaking<o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:on telephone you can press *6 to mute or unmute<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:i'm on via phone now<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:you're up next Robb...<o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:you're doing great <o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:that's how we do it in IAG-CCT <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Hi <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:'Sorry to join so late <o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:waw you were lukcy ! <o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:what about nominating you and validate next call<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:I'm interested in learning -<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Well in finland the time difference might difficult me to , anyway i will be glad to help<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:yep!<o:p></o:p></p><p> Janvier Ngnoulaye:Who is speaking now ? Is the staff can help to put the name of the one who is speaking on the board? On Webex, it's shown automatically .<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:Great. It's a skill I'd really like to learn.<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Great <o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Gabriel Vergara I have added you to attendance<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:Janiver, we do not have that feature. However, it is normal protocol to announce yourself as you speak.<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:Anyone have a link to this pdf?<o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:We will get better at that.<o:p></o:p></p><p> Janvier Ngnoulaye:Yes I download that pdf already<o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:WG Charter link: <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/dmpm-charter-23jan14-en.pdf" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/dmpm-charter-23jan14-en.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Mike are you on USA?<o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:thank you<o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:WGG: <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/procedures" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/procedures</a><o:p></o:p></p><p> Rudi Vansnick:bye to all of you <o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:CLO....yes<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Just to correct my contact on the phone <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:list i Have<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Due i tried to send sms and bounced back <o:p></o:p></p><p> Robb Shecter:bye<o:p></o:p></p><p> Berry Cobb:Thank you everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Mike <o:p></o:p></p><p> Marinel Rosca:have a nice evening<o:p></o:p></p><p> Caleb Kow:Thanks everyone, goodbye<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:thnks<o:p></o:p></p><p> Janvier Ngnoulaye:OK Bye bye<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Mike wait <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:OK well i will send an email <o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:oops... just dropped off... dang. want me to dial in again?<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:No just to confirm <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Are you on USA ? <o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:yes -- midwest<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:I tried to send an sms but bounced back <o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:ah -- that's not a cell phone number -- it's a magic "ring many phones number" email is best best best<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:OK I will try to check my mobile contact list<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara::D<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:coolio<o:p></o:p></p><p> Janvier Ngnoulaye:happy to follow you on the corner <o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:thanks Janvier<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Thanks and sorry i was late today.. i messed out the hour <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:with my outlook here in finland its 00:00<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:that missing-the-hour problem has *never* happened to me ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p> Janvier Ngnoulaye:I'm in Yaounde in Cameroon in Africa it's 11pm<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Well i was wondering if you send ical meeting then it will be better<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:bye all -- i've got to sign into another call. see you on the 'net.<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Due calculating hours its handles by software <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Thnkls<o:p></o:p></p><p> Janvier Ngnoulaye:Thanks, Bye<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:ah -- i'll check with Terri on that -- Terri, are you still monitoring the chat room? does iCal make sense to you? if not, let's correspond and get you going on that.<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:OK <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:We can follow on email <o:p></o:p></p><p> Terri Agnew:Mike it does not make sense to me<o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:coolio! i'll show you how that works. <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:i cal or outlook meeting invitation <o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:right. iCal if you're on a Mac, Outlook if you're on a PC.<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:automatically allocates the calendar booking to your region <o:p></o:p></p><p> Mike O'Connor:argh... gotta go...<o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:and avoids mixing hours-.- <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:have nice afternootn <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Thanks <o:p></o:p></p><p> Gabriel Vergara:Bye to all<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Gnso-dmpm-wg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Gnso-dmpm-wg@icann.org">Gnso-dmpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-dmpm-wg" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-dmpm-wg</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>M. <span style='background:#FFFFCC'>Mouhamet</span> <span style='background:#FFFFCC'>Diop</span></span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><br>CEO & CHAIRMAN<br>Kheweul.Com - ICANN Accredited Registrar</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>NEXT, an Innovative Consulting Company<span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><br></span><a href="http://www.kheweul.org/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1155CC'>http://www.kheweul.org</span></a> - <span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><a href="http://www.kheweul.com" target="_blank">www.kheweul.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Tel: </span>+221 33 821 29 39<span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><br>Mob: +221 77 444 23 50<br>Skype: laminediop<br></span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/kheweulcom/440998055988654" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1155CC'>Facebook/Kheweul.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><br></span><a href="https://twitter.com/kheweul_sn" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1155CC'>Twitter/Kheweul_sn</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><br>-------------------------------<br><b><a href="http://kheweul.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>KHEWEUL.COM</span></a> SA</b><br>Beyond Expected! 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