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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call held on </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Tuesday 23 September </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>2014 at 20:00 UTC at:<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20140923-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20140923-en.mp3</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style='color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheryl Langdon-Orr – ALAC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Olivier Kouami – NPOC <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jonathan Zuck – IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Graeme Bunton – RrSG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Marinel Rosca – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Pam Little – RySG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jeremy Beale-<span style='color:black'> Independent</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew Merriam – RySG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kayode Yussuf – IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tony Onorato - Individual<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>Apologies:<o:p></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoNormal>none<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Berry Cobb<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Steve Chan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Mailing list archives</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>: </span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/</a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:black'>Wiki page</span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'> :</span><span lang=FR> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag"><span lang=FR>https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=FR style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=FR style='color:black'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Terri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span>Tuesday 23 September 2014:<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> <span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the non-PDP Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group teleconference on 23 September 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Marinel Rosca:Hello<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:no all good that makes sense<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Kayode Yussuf has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kayode Yussuf:Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kayode Yussuf:I'm sorry I'm late<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Tony Onorato has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Berry Cobb:virtually all data under contract is publicly available. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tony Onorato:sorry to be late -- was on a client call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:Either way it is an underlying principle<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:either in title or in substance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:Interesting notion that if only limited providers respond then it could endanger any efforts at confidentiality as the data set would be limited<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Pam Little:It will also depend on what data is being requested.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Pam Little:Berry, not all data under contract is public.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:@Jeremy we are unable to hear you, please check your mic<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Pam Little:There are certain types of data provided to ICANN Compliance upon request on a case by case basis.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jeremy Beale:Not working again!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Pam Little:This type of data will not be public.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jeremy Beale:WOuldn't a principle be that only necessary data for the issue can be requested<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jeremy Beale:If there is an important issue (consensus) then requests for data should only be considered unreasonable by registries/registrars if out of bounds of proper consideration of the issue...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Olevie has disconnected from audio and we are unable to reach him back at this time, but will keep trying<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jeremy Beale:Correct - rationale for the principle<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tony Onorato:Yes -- the flow makes sense to me as a framework -- consistent, predictable application such as this, focusing on the most objective quantifiable ways to address the particular issuess seems very advisable and this seems to do that<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Pam Little:Yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Steve Chan:The principles document will be shared after this meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:We can encourage some more established registries to attend, they have more bandwith to attend multiple meetings. I, for one, will need to be in NTAG meeting as a new registry and applicant<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:sadly I am not surprised with that news Pam <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jeremy Beale:WOuld get participation is you said we were proposing making data provision obligatory!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:quite possibly @Jeremy but it will also be rather antagonistic and in productive <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:should read unproductive<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jeremy Beale:Yes, I was joking!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that said we will get better interaction. later I am sure<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:we can pitch for ICANN52 of course...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tony Onorato:I would like to help Jonathan -- time constraints are rough right now, but I would be happy to pitch in as best as possible<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:I'm unlikely to make a call on the 30th<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tony Onorato:No meeting necessary IMHO<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Aldo OK with that approach :-) :-) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ALSO <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks all catch up in LA then...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Pam Little:will try our best.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye.... safe travels to those travelling :-) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tony Onorato:thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Marinel Rosca:thank you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Olévié:hi !<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Olévié:I've joined in AC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p></div></body></html>