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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call held on Tuesday </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>04 November 2014 at 21:00 UTC at:<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20141104-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20141104-en.mp3</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style='color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheryl Langdon-Orr – ALAC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Olivier Kouami – NPOC <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jonathan Zuck – IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Graeme Bunton – RrSG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Pam Little – RySG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew Merriam – RySG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#333333;background:white'>Sonigitu Ekpe – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nenad Orlic – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kayode Yussuf – IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#333333;background:white'>Janvier Ngnoulaye – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>Apologies:<o:p></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tony Onorato - Individual<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Berry Cobb<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Steve Chan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Mailing list archives</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>: </span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/</a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:black'>Wiki page</span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'> :</span><span lang=FR> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag"><span lang=FR>https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=FR style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=FR style='color:black'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Terri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span>Tuesday 04 November 2014:<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the non-PDP Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group teleconference on 04 November 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Sonigitu E.:Hello All!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:Good afternoon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:space noise!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:hi all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I'm on mute. Will be on for just front end of call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jonathan Zuck:Just the "top" of the call?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:sure, top, front end, beginning, the like :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jonathan Zuck:Issue report<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:great point, Graeme<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:Sorry i missed last few meetings<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:so i may be out of current thinking<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:of the group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:'F' flow of the chart presumes that if data is paid there is no confidetiality issue?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I hear that. I'm just saying in getting to YES we shouldn't make it overly burdensome to say NO. i.e, forcing a YES<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Berry Cobb:@Nenad. Thank you for pointing that out. We'' try to account for that in the next version.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:good reminder<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:i'm not familiar with icann budgeting procedure but how is budget approval process aligned to expected timeline that some group should deliver<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:what is budget approval brakes deadlines imposed on the working group that needs that data?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:this WG can't make data provision mandatory<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:i also think that we cannot make data provision mandatory<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I agree with that<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:only to provide guidelines for terms and conditions<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:if it is in goup mandate <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Kayode Yussuf has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:sorry for few typos i think you understood what i meant to say<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Berry Cobb:@Nenad. We will devote future sessions to discuss further about budget for requests. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Berry Cobb:The typcial process today is if there is likely a monetary requirement the request is sent to the GNSO Council and determined there. If accepted, the Council works with staff to fulfill the request.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Berry Cobb:But likely it does impact timelines for WGs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:most probably, but question is how much<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:and should that 'budget lag' be taken into account when deciding <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:about aquiring some data<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:from commercial source<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I apologize for having to drop off at this point - I'll catch up on the recording. I agree with Jonathan's framing of the process but am obviously hesitant of any policy recommendations that would result in greater compliance-like communication from ICANN itself.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all good THANKS<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:There's like 35 people with their names on this WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Jonathan Zuck:Graeme, that's a perpetual issues, obviously.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:more email communication would be fine :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Janvier Ngnoulaye has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Sonigitu E.:Lost connection due to heavy down pour here in Calabar.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Ngnoulaye:sorry, I'm late<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Ngnoulaye:Connectivity problem<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Sonigitu E.:I would like to work in.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:Agreed, we'd need to try both<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Agree with thT Jonathen but lets get it started with IRTP-B <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:ok<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:no objection here<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:works for me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all good by me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Ngnoulaye:OK with me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Sonigitu E.:Its ok.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:keep to schedule<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:I am rammed with CWG and PPSAi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:so 2 weeks is better for me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:two weeks is fine<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Ngnoulaye:I'm fine with 2 weeks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nenad Orlic:bye<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Thanks Bye <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Ngnoulaye:Thanks, bye<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kayode Yussuf:bye everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>