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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call held on </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Tuesday 18 November 2014 at 21:00 UTC at:<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20141118-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-20141118-en.mp3</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style='color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheryl Langdon-Orr – ALAC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jonathan Zuck – IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Pam Little – RySG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew Merriam – RySG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#333333;background:white'>Sonigitu Ekpe – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nenad Orlic – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Janvier Ngnoulaye – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Olivier Kouami – NPOC <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Marinel Rosca – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kayode Yussuf – IPC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Benjamin Akinmoyeje – no soi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>Apologies:<o:p></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoNormal>Graeme Bunton – RrSG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Berry Cobb<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Mailing list archives</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>: </span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/</a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:black'>Wiki page</span><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'> :</span><span lang=FR> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag"><span lang=FR>https://community.icann.org/x/myt-Ag</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=FR style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=FR style='color:black'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Terri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span>Tuesday 18 November 2014:<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Terri Agnew: Dear all, Welcome to the non-PDP Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group teleconference on 18 November 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Marinel Rosca:Hello <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:hi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Janvier Ngnoulaye:Hi Berry, Terri and all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Sonigitu Ekpe:Hello All! Thank you Terri and Berry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:ok<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Sonigitu Ekpe:Yes you make sense @ Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Terri Agnew:Olevie Kouami has joined audio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Terri Agnew:@Nenad it is difficult to hear you<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Berry Cobb:@Nenad, can you type your comment into the chat, it is difficult to hear you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Terri Agnew:Kayode Yussuf has joined<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Pam Little:can hardly hear ...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:very faint audio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Andrew Merriam, Top Level Design:I hope someone else is understanding because I am also cannot make it out<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:regarding tangible results for singapore meeting: i hope i will be in singapore i plan to be there<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:it is good thing that there was improved communication through mail list <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:since that enables everyone in group to think about this subject beyond this meetings<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:and that will speed us up<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Kayode Yussuf:Hi eceryone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Kayode Yussuf:Hi eceryone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:i hope trend will continue and that we will increase email communication<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:regarding use case in review<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:i work at registrar <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:and was member of board at cctld<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:i know that when it comes to exchange of data <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:A LOT is about personal trust <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:between persons exchanging information<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:that made me think<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:is it in our mandate to reccomend WHO should collect data?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:is it our job as WG to reccomend that thata whould be collected by WG working on specific problem<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:or data should be collected through icann body task exclusivly with that job<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:hope i made myself clear this time :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Jonathan Zuck:thanks Nenad. I'll address in a minute<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Janvier Ngnoulaye:I think the task of the WG is on policy, but not focus more on collecting data <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Sonigitu Ekpe:We data to be able to frame and develop policies that are evidence based.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Sonigitu Ekpe:(We need data)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes Pam all clear<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Sonigitu Ekpe:+1 to Pam's point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Janvier Ngnoulaye:The issue is who will collect data ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:would they give it to Nenad Orlic for needs of this WG? :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:and now we come to the issue of writing NDA for members of working groups that need to collect data... :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Terri Agnew:Benjamin Akinmoyeje has joined audio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Janvier Ngnoulaye:There is a clause which solves this inside the document: the last line: "Third party provider to aggregate Registrar data will be required;..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Janvier Ngnoulaye:Yes it makes sense<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Janvier Ngnoulaye:It's fine by me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Nenad Orlic:bye <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Marinel Rosca:Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Janvier Ngnoulaye:OK than k you Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Sonigitu Ekpe:Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:buye<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p></div></body></html>