<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thank you, Gabe. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kurt</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 1, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Gabe Maldoff <<a href="mailto:Gabe.Maldoff@twobirds.com" class="">Gabe.Maldoff@twobirds.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi Kurt,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Just to follow up on this, we're aiming to have our note on question 2 for you by mid-next week. We'll let you know if we have any further questions, but at this stage we do not have any.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Gabe<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kurt Pritz [<a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com" class="">mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>21 February 2019 16:21<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gabe Maldoff<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org" class="">gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-epdp-legal] EPDP - Additional Legal Issues (with attachment) [B&B-M.FID11020712]<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Thanks Gabe. We will “huddle” on this and be back to you. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Kurt<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Feb 21, 2019, at 5:40 AM, Gabe Maldoff <<a href="mailto:Gabe.Maldoff@twobirds.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Gabe.Maldoff@twobirds.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Hi Kurt,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">I hope you're well! We had a few follow-up points from your email below on which we'd be grateful for your assistance.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">On question 1, our analysis will require some additional information:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-indent: -18pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">a)</span><span style="font-size: 7pt;" class=""> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Benefits to rights holders of disclosing the city field. Are there any materials you could point us to that would further substantiate and help us quantify the benefit that rights holders receive by being able to more easily access the city field? Alternatively, if there isn't something written to point to, could we organise a call with the Intellectual Property constituency to discuss this with them?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-indent: -18pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">b)</span><span style="font-size: 7pt;" class=""> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Potential impact for data subjects. Similarly, it would be helpful to understand what issues have arisen in the past – in terms of consequences for data subjects – as a result of the publication of Whois data. Are there materials that discuss this or could we set up a call (would it be with the Commercial Stakeholder group?)?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">If it would be helpful, we could also speak with other domain name registration bodies (e.g. country-code top level domains) to understand the factors they considered in their analyses. Equally, ICANN may prefer that we not reach out to other bodies on this – please let us know either way.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">On question 2, we have begun working through the materials you shared. If we have any questions as we go through them next week, we will be back in touch.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Many thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Gabe<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(0, 76, 146);" class="">Gabe Maldoff</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Georgia, serif; color: rgb(0, 76, 146);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Ruth Boardman<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: 18 February 2019 07:40<br class="">To: Kurt Pritz<br class="">Cc: Gabe Maldoff;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org</span></a><br class="">Subject: Re: EPDP - Additional Legal Issues (with attachment)</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Hello Kurt,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Thank you for this.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">This is just a line to acknowledge - the proper reply (with comments on timing and some questions/ suggestions) is to follow later this week.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Ruth<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">Sent from my iPad<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> On 16 Feb 2019, at 22:56, Kurt Pritz <<a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">kurt@kjpritz.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Dear Ruth and Gabe:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> On behalf of the EPDP Legal Team, I hope this letter finds you both well. I am writing for two reasons.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> 1. City Name Memorandum.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> We found your memo (analysis and conclusions) to be clear. Please take this letter as authorization to continue the research and analysis as indicated in Sections 3.16-3.18 of your memorandum on this topic.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Please let us know if you require an additional consultation before starting this effort.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> 2. Additional question: “Thick Whois"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> The question has to do with the current “Thick Whois” Policy.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Assuming that:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> * ICANN adopts all of the “purposes" identified in the EPDP current draft version of Recommendation 1, [see below for reference to those purposes for processing registration data], which addresses processing for the benefit of registries, registrars, ICANN, and third parties, as part of a future Consensus Policy that updates the WHOIS policy to address GDPR concerns<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> * These purposes become incorporated into the relevant registrar and registry agreements with ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> * There is a prior consensus policy calling for THICK WHOIS that was adopted by the ICANN Board following the Bylaws, that requires the transfer of the WHOIS contact data from the registrars to the registries for reasons that are identified in the Final Report, including ICANN mission related, “substantial benefits from mandating thick instead of thin Whois, including enhanced accessibility and enhanced stability."<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Question: Is there a legal basis under GDPR for a Controller or Processor to justify a transfer of data elements from registrars to registries to enable the processing called for in these purposes even though the processing and transfer of data may be to enable processing for the benefit of 3rd parties? I.e., should the resulting policy from the EPDP would continue the requirement for Thick WHOIS?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> For supporting your work on this question, please take note of the Thick Whois Final Report<<a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf</span></a>> (<a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf</a><<a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">https://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf</span></a>>) that describes the policy reasons for the recommendations. See also,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/thick-whois-2016-06-27-en" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/thick-whois-2016-06-27-en</a><<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/thick-whois-2016-06-27-en" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: purple;" class="">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/thick-whois-2016-06-27-en</span></a>>.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> If you believe that a portion of the meeting records might be helpful to understand the rationale behind the policy recommendations, ICANN will be able to help you with that research.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> The current version of the EPDP report is attached and lists the purposes for processing registration data: see page 5, Section 2.1, Recommendation 1.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> In discussion this issue among the Team we believe that, because of its complexity, there will be some iteration between the EPDP Legal Team and Bird and Bird before a final memo is delivered. Therefore, please feel free to contact us at any point during your research and analysis.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Final note: Please take note that your input ion these issues will affect Phase 2 or implementation discussions and are not on the critical path for the Final Report on Phase 1 of the EPDP. So while timely input is requested, we are not working against a hard and immediate deadline.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Please let us know if you have any questions.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> Kurt<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">> <EPDP Team Draft Final Report - Clean - version 11 February 2019.pdf><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;" class="">><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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