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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear EPDP Phase 2 Legal Sub-team,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Please find notes and action items from today’s meeting below. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>As a reminder, the next EPDP Phase 2 Legal Sub-team meeting will be <b>Tuesday, 1 October at 14:00 UTC</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Marika, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Action Items<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Thomas, Volker, Brian and Margie to work together on refining this question, including considering the addition of a question on reverse look-ups, in advance of the next LC call on Tuesday, 1 October. Legal Committee to review during the next call.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Brian and Matt to review and refine updated Q12/13 and provide the updated language to the EPDP Team in advance of the next call on Tuesday, 1 October.  <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Brian to reach out to Georgios to note the Legal Sub-team is proposing to remove this question due to legal advice received during the F2F meeting, but noting Georgios may clarify the text if he believes a question is still necessary. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>EPDP Phase 2 Legal Committee Meeting #7<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Tuesday, 17 September 14:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:black;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Roll Call & SOI Updates <o:p></o:p></span></b></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Continued Substantive Review of Priority 1 (SSAD) Legal Questions Submitted to Date</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Substantive review of SSAD questions (beginning where LC left off during last LC meeting)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'> Updated Question 11 </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>  </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>(Previous text proposed by Margie)<i>: </i>Is it permissible under GDPR to provide fast, automated, and non-rate limited responses (as described in SSAC 101) to nonpublic WHOIS data for properly credentialed security practitioners<sup>1 </sup>(as defined in SSAC 101) who are responsible for defense against e-crimes (including network operators, providers of online services, commercial security services, cyber-crime investigators) for use in investigations and mitigation activities to protect their network, information systems or services (as referenced in GDPR Recital 49) and have agreed on appropriate safeguards? Or would any automated disclosure carry a potential for liability of the disclosing party, or the controllers or processors of such data? Can counsel provide examples of safeguards (such as pseudonymization/anonymization) that should be considered?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>For purposes of this question, please assume the following safeguards are in place: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:71.25pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Disclosure is required under CP’s contract with ICANN (resulting from Phase 2 EPDP policy).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>CP’s contract with ICANN requires CP to notify the data subject of the purposes for which, and types of entities by which, personal data may be processed. CP is required to notify data subject of this with the opportunity to opt out before the data subject enters into the registration agreement with the CP, and again annually via the ICANN-required registration data accuracy reminder. CP has done so.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>ICANN or its designee has validated/verified the requestor’s identity, and required in each instance that the requestor: </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=paragraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:163.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>•<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>                     </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>represents that it has a lawful basis for requesting and processing the data,  <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=paragraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:163.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>•<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>                     </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>provides its lawful basis, <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=paragraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:163.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>•<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>                     </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>represents that it is requesting only the data necessary for its purpose,  <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=paragraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:163.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>•<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>                     </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>agrees to process the data in accordance with GDPR, and  <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=paragraph style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:163.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;mso-list:l2 level3 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>•<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>                     </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>agrees to EU standard contractual clauses for the data transfer.  <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Footnote 1: SSAC defines “security practitioners” in SSAC 101 as those who have a responsibility to perform specific types of functions (as specified in Section 3) related to the identification and mitigation of malicious activity, and the correction of problems that negatively affect services and users online.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Notes from Call:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>- </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Does the previous memo from Bird & Bird provide enough guidance on automation that this question does not need to be posed? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>- Think the Bird & Bird answer on automation missed the mark. The B&B memo seemed to assume that the decision-making was done by an entity that was a controller of the data. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>- It should not make a difference which entity is ultimately disclosing the data to the third party, as the entity holding the data will still need to disclose data<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>- This is a different question than the one already posed to Bird & Bird – this question asks about volume, and it still needs to be answered. Consider adding the element of reverse look-ups to this question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>-Action item: <span style='color:black'>Thomas, Volker, Brian and Margie to work together on refining this question in advance of the next LC call on Tuesday, 1 October. Legal Committee to review during the next call.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'> Updated Question 12 and 13 </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>(Previous text proposed by Margie) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Background:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_correspondence_odonohue-2Dto-2Dmarby-2D03may19-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8K75qGdDlOta4kh6k2F0jrT195M3tF3J_Fxcz6EvuG2kYKDeA67ZTEnthHXAPVXH&m=QByFqrfGsimsUqARjmh9tGVvwXBjAR0IbkSD0eVdiYg&s=EdXqx7ByC1uX-5j8DO06GVnRLxI1FCbAryQMnKVef7Q&e="><span style='color:#954F72'>recent EC Letter [icann.org]</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='color:black'> </span></span><span style='color:black'>provides clarification regarding the possible legal bases for disclosure of non-public registration data to in the section entitled “Legal Bases for Processing”, and noted:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>“As explained in our comments, Art. 6(1)f GDPR (legitimate interest) is one of the six possible legal bases provided under Art. 6(1) GDPR. For instance, disclosure of nonpublic gTLD registration data could be necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the contracted parties are subject (see Art. 6(1)c GDPR).</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>“With regard to the formulation of purpose two, the European Commission acknowledges ICANN’s central role and responsibility for ensuring the security, stability and resilience of the Internet Domain Name System and that in doing so it acts in the public interest.”</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Questions:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In light of these statements from the EC, are there any updates to the prior memos submitted by B&B regarding the applicable bases for disclosure of non-public registration data to third parties for the purposes identified in EPDP Phase 1 Final Report Rec. 1 (Final Report), such as the memo on 6(1)(b)?   <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>To what extent can disclosures of non-public registration data to third parties for the purposes identified in the Final Report Rec. 1 be justified under GDPR’ Article 6(1)e (public interest), in light of the EC’s recognition that: <i>“With regard to the formulation of purpose two, the European Commission acknowledges ICANN’s central role and responsibility for ensuring the security, stability and resilience of the Internet Domain Name System and that in doing so it acts in the public interest.”</i><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Notes from Call</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- Team agreed to allow Matt and Brian additional time to reformulate this question. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- is there value in asking the questions in the first place if the responses are not accepted at face value?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- The Team should carefully consider the rewritten question and see if the Legal Committee sees value in ultimately posing the question to outside counsel. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- Once the Team sees the redrafted question, the Legal Committee should take another look at the memo, because the answer will not be different.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Action item: Brian and Matt to review and refine updated Q12/13 and provide the updated language to the EPDP Team in advance of the next call on Tuesday, 1 October.  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>Question 6 </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Status: Legal Committee to review new text from Brian and Georgios. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>(Updated proposal from Brian and Georgios): Q6) Within the context of an SSAD, in addition to determining its own lawful basis for disclosing data, may the disclosing party (which may not be the entity that houses the requested data) take full responsibility to assess the lawful basis of the third-party requestor (without the entity that houses the requested data being responsible for assessing the lawful basis of the requestor)?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>*Note to legal subteam: do we want to expand this question to cover the other aspects of a disclosure request, beyond merely the lawful basis?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Previous legal advice rec’d from Bird & Bird: “The safeguards require attestation by the Requestor that it has a legal basis for its collection of personal data via the SSAD. Our conclusion above is that CPs will most likely be viewed as controllers for this processing. Accordingly, the main concern for CPs will be that <i>they </i>(rather than a Requestor) have a legal basis for the processing. Where multiple different controllers are involved, the challenge is greater.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Notes from call:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- The EC and GAC are interested in whether there is a difference b/w the disclosing entity (SSAD) and the entity that houses the data <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- Going back to the memos previously received, there is a chart that shows the difference b/w controllers and processors. Does this provide guidance to this question?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- This question is a duplicate of a previous question. Liability cannot be shifted by contract. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- For the future, if there is any doubt about duplication of questions, the individuals proposing the question should explain how the question differs and why it is necessary to ask the question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- At this juncture, before spending money on legal questions – the Team needs to voice concerns with existing answers. The LC seems to be reframing questions to get a different answer that may suit particular parties. Rather than wordsmithing the questions, could the Team consider issues in the current memos and see if further guidance is needed, or, instead, if the open issues are policy questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- Support the idea of stating what the problem is, and then determining what the legal or policy issue is. That said, the policy discussion should occur in plenary meetings, not in legal committee calls.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- Any objection to note that Q6 has already been answered, and accordingly, remove it from the roster of questions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>- Action: Brian to reach out to Georgios to note the EPDP Team received advice on lawful basis of requesting entity and give opportunity to clarify updated Q6. <o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=3 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Questions previously put on hold pending further legal advice and/or EPDP Team discussion<o:p></o:p></span></b></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>How to conduct a balancing test under Article 6(1)(f)</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> (suggestion by Farzaneh B.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Status: Does the Legal Committee believe a further question on how to conduct a balancing test under 6(1)(f) is still warranted? (For reference, Bird & Bird has previously provided legal advice on how to carry out a balancing in both the Phase 1 city field memo and the Phase 2 automation memo.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Notes from LC call:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level5 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Legal Committee agrees it has already received previous advice on this question, and it can be removed from the list of outstanding questions.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ol></ol></ol></ol><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;line-height:11.65pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Automated decision-making</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Status: Legal Committee to determine if the below question, or a permutation thereof, is necessary in light of the advice received from Bird & Bird in its Phase 2 Automation memo.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Draft question from Hadia: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Part of the rights that GDPR gives to individual users are in relation to automated decision making. In the context of gTLD registration data, automated decision making could be particularly useful when evaluating requests for disclosure of non public registration data. The decision making would typically involve examining the request, the supporting documents and the lawful basis of the controller/processor for disclosure in addition, to performing the balancing test in case article 6(1)f is being used as the lawful basis for disclosure. The decision would typically be based on factual information/data as well as maybe digitally created data. The automated decision would particularly lead to quicker and consistent decisions especially where a large number of requests are being analyzed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The EPDP team would appreciate Bird & Bird answers to the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul type=circle><ol start=1 type=a><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The potential risks to the controllers/processors associated with automated decision making especially that a margin of error could always exist<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The conditions/precautions that should be applied if automated decision making is to be used.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo4'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Could a balancing test be used to weigh up the risks of using the results and how could this be best done.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Notes from call:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level5 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Legal Committee agrees it has already received previous advice on this question, and the questions can be removed from the list of outstanding questions.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ol></ol></ol></ol><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:11.65pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Accreditation: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Status: The below question was proposed by ISPCP before the EPDP Team began discussing accreditation. Does this question need to be revisited now that discussions about accreditation have begun, or should it remain on hold pending further discussion?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>3. Legal guidance should be sought on the possibility of an accreditation-based disclosure system as such. (ISPCP)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Notes from call: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level5 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The F2F meeting in Los Angeles made very clear that the Team does not have a common definition of what accreditation means. Until the Team agrees on a common definition, this question should be placed ON HOLD.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ol></ol></ol></ol><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Additional topics noted in plenary sessions, where an EPDP Member requested the topic be considered by the Legal Committee</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Status: Legal Committee to determine if the below topics should be considered further by the Legal Committee, and if so, volunteers are needed to provide draft text.  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Domain names based on identical contact information</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>:<b> </b>If a requestor obtains contact information for a domain name engaged in bad activity, is accessing contact information from other domain names with identical contact information permissible? (topic introduced by Brian K. during 6 September plenary meeting)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Notes from call:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level5 lfo1'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></li></ul></ol></ol></ol></ol><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>ccTLD operators offering reverse WHOIS look-up services </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>(topic introduced by Margie during F2F – requested legal advice) </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level5 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>          </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Thomas, Volker, Brian and Margie to consider these items in their review of Q11. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>e)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Agree on next steps<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:black;margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Wrap and confirm next meeting to be scheduled <o:p></o:p></span></b></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Confirm action items<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:73.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-19.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The next LC Meeting will take place on Tuesday, 1 October at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>