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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">+1 Plus the DPAs have already opined on this matter in correspondence to ICANN<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-10-01 10:03, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>
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<p>I am not comfortable with asking this question at this time as it is unclear that reverse lookup will gain consensus regardless of the legality. The position of registrars remains that RDAP and SSAD lookups should not provide new functionalities that were
not available as standard functions in the whois of yore. <br>
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<p>While such features could be available on a voluntary basis by some registries, this wouldremain on a strictly voluntary basis to offer such a service.</p>
<p>I also object to this version to be sent so shorty before the discussion time. I am sure no one had time to review.</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<p>01.10.2019 um 15:56 schrieb Margie Milam:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Here’s my proposal based on prior discussions with Brian, Thomas & Volker. Please note that this language is not reviewed yet by Thomas, Brian & Volker, but I am sharing for the purposes of discussion today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">__________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color:black">Updated Question 11</span></u></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:black">Status: Thomas, Volker, Brian and Margie to work together on refining this question in advance of the next LC call on Tuesday, 1 October.</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">(Previous text proposed by Margie)<i>: </i>Is it permissible under GDPR to provide fast, automated, and non-rate limited responses (as described in SSAC 101) to nonpublic WHOIS data for properly credentialed security
practitioners<sup>1 </sup><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">(<s>as defined in SSAC 101</s>)</span> who are responsible for defense against e-crimes (including network operators, providers of online services, commercial security services,
cyber-crime investigators) for use in investigations and mitigation activities to protect their network, information systems or services (as referenced in GDPR Recital 49) and have agreed on appropriate safeguards? Or would any automated disclosure carry a
potential for liability of the disclosing party, or the controllers or processors of such data? Can counsel provide examples of safeguards (such as pseudonymization/anonymization) that should be considered?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">In addition, does GDPR prohibit the SSAD to be designed to enable reverse lookups based on contact fields associated with domain names that have been identified as being
used for DNS abuse, such as phishing, malware and or similar type of attacks? What are the risks associated with reverse lookups, and if it is possible to conduct reverse lookups, are there steps that can be taken to mitigate any perceived risks?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">For purposes of this question, please assume the following safeguards are in place: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:71.25pt"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:black">o</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">Disclosure is required under CP’s contract
with ICANN (resulting from Phase 2 EPDP policy).</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:black">o</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">CP’s contract with ICANN requires CP
to notify the data subject of the purposes for which, and types of entities by which, personal data may be processed. CP is required to notify data subject of this with the opportunity to opt out before the data subject enters into the registration agreement
with the CP, and again annually via the ICANN-required registration data accuracy reminder. CP has done so.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";color:black">o</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">ICANN or its designee has validated/verified
the requestor’s identity, and required in each instance that the requestor: </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="color:black">• represents that it has a lawful basis for requesting and processing the data, </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">• provides its lawful basis, </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">• represents that it is requesting only the data necessary for its purpose, </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">• agrees to process the data in accordance with GDPR, and </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">• agrees to EU standard contractual clauses for the data transfer. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Footnote 1:
<s>SSAC defines</s> “security practitioners” <s>in SSAC 101 as those who have a responsibility to perform specific types of functions (as specified in Section 3) related to the identification and mitigation of malicious activity, and the correction of problems
that negatively affect services and users online. </s></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"> are entities that have either legal authority and/or legal responsibility to protect their technology/network/infrastructure,
such as national CERTs, and also DSPs. (See the UK ICO (</span><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ico.org.uk_for-2Dorganisations_the-2Dguide-2Dto-2Dnis_digital-2Dservice-2Dproviders_&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=xeXHSQy6Jg3NeENvgZ2sqoBiOr3J07ArOU4MUONzwU4&s=avDrp6cxNXTZKuZCGeGUDM-Cgi0HhyR9IzaQzQAiu3Y&e=" moz-do-not-send="true">https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/the-guide-to-nis/digital-service-providers/</a>)
since these types of companies appear to have security obligations (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ico.org.uk_for-2Dorganisations_the-2Dguide-2Dto-2Dnis_security-2Drequirements_&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=xeXHSQy6Jg3NeENvgZ2sqoBiOr3J07ArOU4MUONzwU4&s=5R4dCyK71voQGm83RO7mPQTr5MU4wMXYqIbyvBJCJUE&e=" moz-do-not-send="true">https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/the-guide-to-nis/security-requirements/</a>).</span>
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