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    <p>Dear team, <br>
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    <p>please find attached a first commentary on the proposed question
      11 outlining some issues and proposing some edits.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>volker<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 01.10.2019 um 15:56 schrieb Margie
      Milam:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Here’s my
            proposal based on prior discussions with Brian, Thomas &
            Volker.  Please note that this language is not reviewed yet
            by Thomas, Brian &  Volker,  but I am sharing for the
            purposes of discussion today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">__________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color:black">Updated
                Question 11</span></u></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in"><span
            style="color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:black">Status:
              Thomas, Volker, Brian and Margie to work together on
              refining this question in advance of the next LC call on
              Tuesday, 1 October.</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in"><span
            style="color:black"> </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">(Previous text
            proposed by Margie)<i>: </i>Is it permissible under GDPR to
            provide fast, automated, and non-rate limited responses (as
            described in SSAC 101) to nonpublic WHOIS data for properly
            credentialed security practitioners<sup>1 </sup><span
              style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">(<s>as
                defined in SSAC 101</s>)</span> who are responsible for
            defense against e-crimes (including network operators,
            providers of online services, commercial security services,
            cyber-crime investigators) for use in investigations and
            mitigation activities to protect their network, information
            systems or services (as referenced in GDPR Recital 49) and
            have agreed on appropriate safeguards? Or would any
            automated disclosure carry a potential for liability of the
            disclosing party, or the controllers or processors of such
            data? Can counsel provide examples of safeguards (such as
            pseudonymization/anonymization) that should be considered? 
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">In
            addition, does GDPR prohibit  the SSAD to be designed to
            enable reverse lookups based on contact fields associated
            with domain names that have been identified as being used
            for DNS abuse, such as phishing, malware and or similar type
            of attacks?  What are the risks associated with reverse
            lookups, and if it is possible to conduct reverse lookups,
            are there steps that can be taken to mitigate any perceived
            risks?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">For purposes of
            this question, please assume the following safeguards are in
            place: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:71.25pt"><span
            style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in">
          <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
            New";color:black">o</span><span
            style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:black">    </span><span
            style="color:black">Disclosure is required under CP’s
            contract with ICANN (resulting from Phase 2 EPDP policy).</span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in">
          <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
            New";color:black">o</span><span
            style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:black">    </span><span
            style="color:black">CP’s contract with ICANN requires CP to
            notify the data subject of the purposes for which, and types
            of entities by which, personal data may be processed. CP is
            required to notify data subject of this with the opportunity
            to opt out before the data subject enters into the
            registration agreement with the CP, and again annually via
            the ICANN-required registration data accuracy reminder. CP
            has done so.</span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in">
          <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
            New";color:black">o</span><span
            style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:black">    </span><span
            style="color:black">ICANN or its designee has
            validated/verified the requestor’s identity, and required in
            each instance that the requestor: </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
            style="color:black">•                     represents that it
            has a lawful basis for requesting and processing the data,  </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
            style="color:black">•                     provides its
            lawful basis, </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
            style="color:black">•                     represents that it
            is requesting only the data necessary for its purpose,  </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
            style="color:black">•                     agrees to process
            the data in accordance with GDPR, and  </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
            style="color:black">•                     agrees
            to EU standard contractual clauses for the data transfer.  </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span
            style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Footnote
            1:
            <s>SSAC defines</s> “security practitioners” <s>in SSAC 101
              as those who have a responsibility to perform specific
              types of functions (as specified in Section 3) related to
              the identification and mitigation of malicious activity,
              and the correction of problems that negatively affect
              services and users online.   </s></span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">  are
            entities that have either legal authority and/or legal
            responsibility to protect their
             technology/network/infrastructure, such as national CERTs,
            and also DSPs.  (See the UK ICO (</span><span
            style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ico.org.uk_for-2Dorganisations_the-2Dguide-2Dto-2Dnis_digital-2Dservice-2Dproviders_&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=xeXHSQy6Jg3NeENvgZ2sqoBiOr3J07ArOU4MUONzwU4&s=avDrp6cxNXTZKuZCGeGUDM-Cgi0HhyR9IzaQzQAiu3Y&e="
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/the-guide-to-nis/digital-service-providers/</a>)
            since these types of companies appear to have security
            obligations (<a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ico.org.uk_for-2Dorganisations_the-2Dguide-2Dto-2Dnis_security-2Drequirements_&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=xeXHSQy6Jg3NeENvgZ2sqoBiOr3J07ArOU4MUONzwU4&s=5R4dCyK71voQGm83RO7mPQTr5MU4wMXYqIbyvBJCJUE&e="
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/the-guide-to-nis/security-requirements/</a>).</span>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span
            style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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