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    <p>Hi all, <br>
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    <p>in response to Beckys request, I am resending my original message
      requesting changes.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
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            <td>Re: [Gnso-epdp-legal] Updated Question 11</td>
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            <td>Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:57:19 +0200</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Von: </th>
            <td>Volker Greimann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a></td>
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            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org">gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org</a></td>
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      <p>Dear team, <br>
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      <p>please find attached a first commentary on the proposed
        question 11 outlining some issues and proposing some edits.</p>
      <p>Best,</p>
      <p>volker<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 01.10.2019 um 15:56 schrieb Margie
        Milam:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Here’s my
              proposal based on prior discussions with Brian, Thomas
              & Volker.  Please note that this language is not
              reviewed yet by Thomas, Brian &  Volker,  but I am
              sharing for the purposes of discussion today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">__________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color:black">Updated
                  Question 11</span></u></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="color:black"> </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:black">Status:
                Thomas, Volker, Brian and Margie to work together on
                refining this question in advance of the next LC call on
                Tuesday, 1 October.</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="color:black"> </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">(Previous text
              proposed by Margie)<i>: </i>Is it permissible under GDPR
              to provide fast, automated, and non-rate limited responses
              (as described in SSAC 101) to nonpublic WHOIS data for
              properly credentialed security practitioners<sup>1 </sup><span
                style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">(<s>as
                  defined in SSAC 101</s>)</span> who are responsible
              for defense against e-crimes (including network operators,
              providers of online services, commercial security
              services, cyber-crime investigators) for use in
              investigations and mitigation activities to protect their
              network, information systems or services (as referenced in
              GDPR Recital 49) and have agreed on appropriate
              safeguards? Or would any automated disclosure carry a
              potential for liability of the disclosing party, or the
              controllers or processors of such data? Can counsel
              provide examples of safeguards (such as
              pseudonymization/anonymization) that should be
              considered?  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">In
              addition, does GDPR prohibit  the SSAD to be designed to
              enable reverse lookups based on contact fields associated
              with domain names that have been identified as being used
              for DNS abuse, such as phishing, malware and or similar
              type of attacks?  What are the risks associated with
              reverse lookups, and if it is possible to conduct reverse
              lookups, are there steps that can be taken to mitigate any
              perceived risks?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">For purposes of
              this question, please assume the following safeguards are
              in place: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:71.25pt"><span
              style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in">
            <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
              New";color:black">o</span><span
              style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
              Roman",serif;color:black">    </span><span
              style="color:black">Disclosure is required under CP’s
              contract with ICANN (resulting from Phase 2 EPDP policy).</span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in">
            <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
              New";color:black">o</span><span
              style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
              Roman",serif;color:black">    </span><span
              style="color:black">CP’s contract with ICANN requires CP
              to notify the data subject of the purposes for which, and
              types of entities by which, personal data may be
              processed. CP is required to notify data subject of this
              with the opportunity to opt out before the data subject
              enters into the registration agreement with the CP, and
              again annually via the ICANN-required registration data
              accuracy reminder. CP has done so.</span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in">
            <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
              New";color:black">o</span><span
              style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New
              Roman",serif;color:black">    </span><span
              style="color:black">ICANN or its designee has
              validated/verified the requestor’s identity, and
              required in each instance that the requestor: </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
              style="color:black">•                     represents that
              it has a lawful basis for requesting and processing the
              data,  </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
              style="color:black">•                     provides its
              lawful basis, </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
              style="color:black">•                     represents that
              it is requesting only the data necessary for its
              purpose,  </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
              style="color:black">•                     agrees to
              process the data in accordance with GDPR, and  </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-left:163.0pt;text-indent:-37.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
              style="color:black">•                     agrees
              to EU standard contractual clauses for the data
              transfer.  </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span
              style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Footnote
              1: <s>SSAC defines</s> “security practitioners” <s>in
                SSAC 101 as those who have a responsibility to perform
                specific types of functions (as specified in Section 3)
                related to the identification and mitigation of
                malicious activity, and the correction of problems that
                negatively affect services and users online.   </s></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">  are
              entities that have either legal authority and/or legal
              responsibility to protect their
               technology/network/infrastructure, such as national
              CERTs, and also DSPs.  (See the UK ICO (</span><span
              style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ico.org.uk_for-2Dorganisations_the-2Dguide-2Dto-2Dnis_digital-2Dservice-2Dproviders_&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=xeXHSQy6Jg3NeENvgZ2sqoBiOr3J07ArOU4MUONzwU4&s=avDrp6cxNXTZKuZCGeGUDM-Cgi0HhyR9IzaQzQAiu3Y&e="
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/the-guide-to-nis/digital-service-providers/</a>)
              since these types of companies appear to have security
              obligations (<a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ico.org.uk_for-2Dorganisations_the-2Dguide-2Dto-2Dnis_security-2Drequirements_&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=xeXHSQy6Jg3NeENvgZ2sqoBiOr3J07ArOU4MUONzwU4&s=5R4dCyK71voQGm83RO7mPQTr5MU4wMXYqIbyvBJCJUE&e="
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/the-guide-to-nis/security-requirements/</a>).</span>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span
              style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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