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Hi Legal Committee,<br>
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One additional point for us to consider:
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<div>It’s become clear to many of us on the legal committee that the helpful Bird & Bird advice on automation has uncovered what appears to be a novel legal question: where is the line between a) automated processing that sua sponte “produces legal effects
concerning him or her” or “similarly significantly affects him or her” vs. b) automated disclosure by CPs and/or ICANN to a third party which might later lead to legal or similarly significant effects after the third party’s own further processing and use
of the data. <br>
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We as a legal committee need to consider whether it makes sense for us to ask B&B to opine on this concept. Frankly, this may be too new an area of law for them to provide much value, at least from my perspective as a US attorney who finds value in the common
law legal system of controlling precedent. What do you think? <br>
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I submit that if we expect B&B’s answer to be “we don’t know,” then we shouldn’t waste or time or pay for that answer. <br>
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On the other hand, if we think that it’s either clear or confirmable that automated disclosure of RDS data protected by a set of safeguards is distinguishable from the type of government-run, automated discrimination that GDPR is intended to prevent, then I
would be comfortable either asking the question or presuming the answer as an EPDP team. <br>
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Questions and comments welcome. <br>
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Unfortunately, tomorrow I’ll be at a dentist appointment and will likely be late to the legal team call if I’m able to make it at all. I look forward to discussing with you all soon. <br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Brian J. King</span>
<div>Director of Internet Policy and Industry Affairs</div>
<div>MarkMonitor / Part of Clarivate Analytics<br>
<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Phone: +1 (443) 761-3726</span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">brian.king@markmonitor.com</span></div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Mar 2, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Caitlin Tubergen <caitlin.tubergen@icann.org> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Legal Committee:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s Legal Committee meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">EPDP Phase 2 Legal Committee- Meeting #16</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 15.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">1. Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">2. </span><u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1meyuNRsq4sMOI6pefJk4jZevaKUsTkVf8-5FXyW1tRaiA_edit&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8K75qGdDlOta4kh6k2F0jrT195M3tF3J_Fxcz6EvuG2kYKDeA67ZTEnthHXAPVXH&m=6hzZjWOQWBa9CxGpZ5MQ7TmVG-Rr0Hzr_l422El-flw&s=1QwH9VJ1kvfWhftZb7WfLKDG-EqW1cKt_Xe9fki02Oo&e="><span style="color:#0563C1">Feasibility
of unique contacts [docs.google.com]</span></a></span></u><span style="color:#0563C1"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:black">Legal Committee to propose next steps for Thursday’s EPDP Meeting (draft proposal attached)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:black">Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">3. <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1rdtRLaNm5DiWR-5FEPei4Oi64FaDauIXEQhnF2Lm-5FNxbI_edit&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8K75qGdDlOta4kh6k2F0jrT195M3tF3J_Fxcz6EvuG2kYKDeA67ZTEnthHXAPVXH&m=6hzZjWOQWBa9CxGpZ5MQ7TmVG-Rr0Hzr_l422El-flw&s=j0BshY1-hHBzwXkHkIGGZtMSDdDg41LAUskiN5OVrRE&e=">
<span style="color:#0563C1">City field redaction [docs.google.com]</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:black">Review Matthew Crossman’s proposal (attached)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="color:black">Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><span style="color:black">4. Review outstanding “Batch 2” questions (attached)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><span style="color:black"> a. WHOIS accuracy/Legal vs. Natural<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><span style="color:black"> b. Territorial Scope<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><span style="color:black">5. Legal review of Initial Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Question to Legal Committee: is there any interest in sending the Initial Report’s executive summary or a subset of recommendations to Bird & Bird to flag overarching legal concerns?
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Confirm next steps<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span style="color:black">6. Wrap and confirm next Legal Committee Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Marika, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></p>
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