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On Wednesday, March 18, 2020, 06:55:27 AM PDT, King, Brian via Gnso-epdp-legal <gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org> wrote:
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Thank you, Matt. I really appreciate you taking the pen on this.
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I have a couple thoughts we should discuss on our call in a few minutes, a couple important ones being:
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<ol start="1" type="1"><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">We should recognize the suggestion from Bird & Bird in the automation memo that providing a pre-approved list of options for the requestor
to select makes a decision not automated, and ask for more detail on that.
</span></li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I think we should ask about the scenario where the Contracted Party does not have a choice about disclosing the data. This seems to
be where the real heartburn is for Contracted Parties. </span></li></ol>
<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">As a question for staff and the larger team, I provided a list of questions on the legal team list pertaining to the Initial Report sections we should ask Bird & Bird to review. Whatever happened to those?
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Brian J. King
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Crossman, Matthew via Gnso-epdp-legal<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2020 2:53 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org<br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-legal] Proposed Agenda - Legal Committee Meeting #17 - 18 March 2020</span></p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Hi folks,</span></p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Below are some thoughts on language to send to Bird & Bird along with the Automation Use Case document that the small team has prepared. Looking forward to discussing tomorrow.</span></p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Matt</span></p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Automation Use Cases Legal Question</span></b></p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">The EPDP team is deliberating on a set of use cases for potential automation of the decision to disclose non-public registrant data (attached as Exhibit 1). This automation would occur within
the agreed model for disclosure, which consists of a central gateway for the intake of requests by accredited users with the ultimate decision to disclose resting with Contracted Parties (who possess the underlying non-public registration data). Under the
proposed automation use cases, the central gateway makes an automated decision on disclosure which is communicated to the relevant Contracted Party. The Contracted Party may then choose to follow that decision and disclose the data (see “Assumptions” in Exhibit
1 for further details). </span></p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">In light of the advice previously provide on
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Question 3</a> (Automation), please provide the following analysis for each use case:</span></p>
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<ol style="margin-top:0in;" start="1" type="1"><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Please describe the risk of liability for the Central Gateway and Contracted Parties related to automating this decision to disclose registrant data. If there
is additional information required to assess the risk, please note the additional information needed.</span></li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Is this a decision “which produces legal effects concerning [the data subject] or similarly significantly affects him or her” within the scope of Article 22?</span></li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Are there additional measures or safeguards that would mitigate the risk of liability?</span></li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Does automated decision-making performed in this manner impact your analysis on the roles/liability of the parties described in the Question 1&2 memo (e.g., Contracted
Parties remain controllers with liability where “disclosure takes place in an automated fashion, without any manual intervention.” 1.1.4)</span></li></ol>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Additional automation clarifications:</span></p>
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<ol style="margin-top:0in;" start="1" type="1"><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">[Placeholder for Brian K. proximate cause question]</span></li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">[Any other clarifications from Question 3 memo]</span></li></ol>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> Gnso-epdp-legal <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-legal-bounces@icann.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-legal-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a shape="rect" href="mailto:policy@bacinblack.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">policy@bacinblack.com</a><br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 17, 2020 3:09 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-legal@icann.org</a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-epdp-legal] Proposed Agenda - Legal Committee Meeting #17 - 18 March 2020</span></p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal">Dear Legal Committee:</p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal">Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s Legal Committee meeting.</p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;">EPDP Phase 2 Legal Committee- Meeting #17</span></b><span style="color:black;"></span></p>
<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black;">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="color:black;"></span></p>
<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;">Tuesday, 18 March 2020 at 14.00 UTC</span></p>
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Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)</li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:black;">
Review B&B legal guidance on Consent where legal persons may contain data of natural persons<span>
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Review WHOIS accuracy/Legal vs. Natural (attached), based on GNSO Council’s decision<span>
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<span style="color:windowtext;">Review suggestion to send the automation use cases to outside counsel for further guidance on liability and risk, for the Legal Committee’s review (Matthew)</span></li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:black;">
Wrap and confirm next Legal Committee Meeting<span>
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TBD</li><li class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal" style="color:black;">
Confirm action items</li></ol></ol>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal">Thank you.</p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal">Best regards,</p>
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<p class="ydp9fe63fb0yiv1438424850MsoNormal">Marika, Berry, and Caitlin</p>
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