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    <p>Thanks Kristina for the proposal to allow alternates to access
      the AC Room. It greatly helps to follow more easily the exchanges
      and thus be up to date information in the case where the alternate
      must replace a member. I was able to resume the history of the
      last exchanges and am therefore ready to follow the meeting later.</p>
    <p>Have a nice day</p>
    <p>Arnaud<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 16/08/2018 à 05:35, 'Rosette,
      Kristina' via ePDP team a écrit :<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">FYI. 
            Not sure of the timing of Kurt’s response so recommend that
            any comments/proposed changes be provided to Alan, Marc and
            Arnaud tomorrow.  (Arnaud is acting as Member on my behalf
            until Monday.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">K<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                Gnso-epdp-team [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kurt Pritz<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 15, 2018 5:14 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> GNSO EPDP <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org"><gnso-epdp-team@icann.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-epdp-team] Fwd: Coordination
                between ICANN org and EPDP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Everyone: <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Yesterday, I received the email below
            from Göran Marby. I wanted those of you who are interested
            to see and have the ability to comment on my draft reply,
            which is immediately below Göran’s letter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">The reply will be from me so I might not
            include all comments - not necessarily because I disagree
            with the substance but it might be because of tone, timing
            or level of detail. <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On the other hand, I’d be foolish not to
            consult with you as many of you have been involved with
            ICANN efforts at correspondence and issue resolution. If you
            have input, I will read and consider it carefully.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure I want to make this a topic
            of discussion in tomorrow’s meeting as finishing the triage
            is more important. I see the letter as more of an invitation
            to start a dialogue where we can integrate efforts, rather
            than pursue separate objectives. <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Kurt<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">From:
                    </span>
                  </b><span
                    style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Goran
                    Marby <<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">goran.marby@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Subject:
                      Coordination between ICANN org and EPDP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Date:
                    </span>
                  </b><span
                    style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">August
                    14, 2018 at 8:17:13 AM PDT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">To:
                    </span>
                  </b><span
                    style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">"<a
                      href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>"
                    <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>,
                    "<a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>" <<a
                      href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Cc:
                    </span>
                  </b><span
                    style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">David
                    Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">david.olive@icann.org</a>>,
                    Theresa Swinehart <<a
                      href="mailto:theresa.swinehart@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">theresa.swinehart@icann.org</a>>,
                    John Jeffrey <<a
                      href="mailto:john.jeffrey@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">john.jeffrey@icann.org</a>>,
                    "Akram Atallah" <<a
                      href="mailto:akram.atallah@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">akram.atallah@icann.org</a>>,
                    Chris Disspain <<a
                      href="mailto:chris.disspain@board.icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">chris.disspain@board.icann.org</a>>,
                    "<a href="mailto:leon.sanchez@board.icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">leon.sanchez@board.icann.org</a>"
                    <<a href="mailto:leon.sanchez@board.icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">leon.sanchez@board.icann.org</a>>,
                    Cassia Oliveira <<a
                      href="mailto:cassia.oliveira@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">cassia.oliveira@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kurt,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Today,
                      ICANN org held a call to provide community leaders
                      with updates regarding various GDPR activities.
                      The slides and recording of the call are available
                      at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/data-protection-meetings-2017-12-08-en"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="color:#0B4CB4">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/data-protection-meetings-2017-12-08-en</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On
                      the call, a few community leaders reinforced the
                      value of coordination between ICANN org and the
                      EPDP Working Group, particularly around access
                      model. To this end, please share with us any
                      thoughts you might have regarding a process by
                      which (1) ICANN org can share guidance we receive
                      from the DPAs and European Data Protection Board
                      with the EPDP Working Group; and (2) How the EPDP
                      Working Group will provide input regarding access
                      to ICANN org to use in our interactions with DPAs
                      and European Data Protection Board to obtain legal
                      guidance that will help guide the Working Group in
                      its work. As you know, we post all information we
                      receive through our blogs and engage with
                      stakeholders, also through communications we post
                      whether through correspondence or comments via<span
                        class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                        href="mailto:gdpr@icann.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="color:#0B4CB4">gdpr@icann.org</span></a>.
                      I look forward to hearing your thoughts on how we
                      can continue to strengthen our work together
                      toward the common goal of having an access model
                      that is guided by the law and supported by the
                      community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best
                      regards,</span><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Göran 
                      Marby</span><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">President
                      & CEO ICANN</span><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">+1(310)
                      578 8690</span><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Cássia
                      Oliveira</span><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sr.
                      Manager, Office of the President & CEO </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
                        href="mailto:cassia.oliveira@icann.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">cassia.oliveira@icann.org</a></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">+1(310)
                      578 8656</span><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Goran: <br>
            <br>
            I have repeated some your email below so that there is a
            clear connection between your questions and my responses.<br>
            <br>
            <span style="color:#0433FF">Today, ICANN org held a call to
              provide community leaders with updates regarding various
              GDPR activities. The slides and recording of the call are
              available at <a
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/data-protection-meetings-2017-12-08-en"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/data-protection-meetings-2017-12-08-en</a>.<br>
              <br>
              On the call, a few community leaders reinforced the value
              of coordination between ICANN org and the EPDP Working
              Group, particularly around access model. To this end,
              please share with us any thoughts you might have regarding
              a process by which:<br>
              <br>
              1)     ICANN org can share guidance we receive from the
              DPAs and European Data Protection Board with the
              EPDP Working Group.</span><br>
            <br>
            a.     Through its many recent actions: engaging with the
            ICANN community, governments, the EDPB, and others, it is
            apparent that ICANN is the midst of executing a plan to
            obtain certainty around the various GDPR provisions. It
            would be instructive for the EPDP Team if ICANN were to
            share its plan (or elements of it) so that the team can
            anticipate the receipt (and timing) of new information. It
            would also indicate where there is likely no additional
            information, i.e., where the team would be left to draw
            conclusions based on the information that is already
            available. This information would likely cut down on the
            number of questions the ICANN Org receives from the team. <br>
            <br>
            We understand that the plan must have a degree of
            informality and be flexible, with each step based upon the
            information received in the step before it. However, where
            available, it would be instructive to know the planned-for
            objectives, expected learnings, a set of ultimate questions
            to be answered, planned inquiries, targets and so on.<br>
            <br>
            b.     While ICANN has published each communication, the
            findings or results of those communications have not been
            organized in anyway of which we know. For example, observers
            of the back-and-forth between the ICANN Org and the EDPB
            have offered conclusions that can be drawn from these
            documents. However, no one has organized those conclusions
            in a way that might become a rule set or set of guidelines
            for those reviewing the Temporary Specification or creating
            an access model.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
            Coincidentally, in today’s EPDP meeting such a request was
            made: for disclosure of all the communications with the EDPB
            and DPAs, the staff commentary to those communications, and
            some organization of same.<br>
            <br>
            c.     We also wish to hear of developments related to GDPR
            in other industries, if available, such as:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <ol start="1" type="1">
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">
              what data processing protocols have been adopted<o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">
              what data processing protocols have been tested in courts<o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">
              what other privacy regimes are in works in other
              jurisdictions<o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo1">
              what data is available regarding:<o:p></o:p></li>
          </ol>
          <ol start="4" type="1">
            <ol start="1" type="1">
              <li class="MsoNormal"
                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                level2 lfo1">
                the effects of GDPR on malfeasance detection, avoidance<o:p></o:p></li>
              <li class="MsoNormal"
                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                level2 lfo1">
                other positive or negative effects of GDPR<o:p></o:p></li>
            </ol>
          </ol>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
            <span style="color:#0433FF">2)    How the EPDP Working
              Group will provide input regarding access to ICANN org to
              use in our interactions with DPAs and European Data
              Protection Board to obtain legal guidance that will help
              guide the Working Group in its work. As you know, we post
              all information we receive through our blogs and engage
              with stakeholders, also through communications we post
              whether through correspondence or comments via <a
                href="mailto:gdpr@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">gdpr@icann.org</a>.</span><br>
            <br>
            a.     The EPDP team’s third set of deliverables is to
            provide an, “Initial Report and a Final Report regarding the
            EPDP Team’s recommendations … for a System for Accredited
            Access to Non-Public Registration Data.” Work on this could
            begin as early as the completion and publication of the
            Initial Report on the Temporary Specification. (The Team
            stays in close contact with the GNSO Council leadership in
            pursuit of the deliverables to ensure the spirit and letter
            of the EPDP Charter is followed.)<br>
            <br>
            b.     While our current answer to this question is not yet
            finely honed, it is likely that, from time to time, the EPDP
            Team will have question regarding the constraints
            / opportunities imposed by the GDPR. These questions might
            take the form of a proposed access model (or elements of an
            access model).  The EPDP Team will forward those to
            ICANN, which, in turn, can test them against its own
            knowledge base, with DPAs, with the EDPB, or elsewhere.<br>
            <br>
            c.     As ICANN is a data controller involved in the
            collection, use and disclosure of the same data that is the
            subject matter of this Team’s work, it is expected that
            ICANN will work with the team on the successor to the
            Temporary Specification and an access model.<br>
            <br>
            I hope you find this response helpful. The team is keen to
            continue an active correspondence with ICANN in order to
            flesh out the framework provided by GDPR with detailed
            clarifications, implementation guidance and cases from
            other, similarly situated industries that have faced many of
            these same issues.<br>
            <br>
            We also plan to remain in close communication with ICANN
            leaders on this topic, through the ICANN-provided liaisons
            to the EPDP Team.<br>
            <br>
            Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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