<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Cisco published several reports which is nit supported by public.<div>You may like it but should not be related to redacting nor to the usefulness or otherwise of Whois and is outside the mandate of this group .</div><div>Moreover,any action if and only if necessary to be taken should be based on multiple studies for long terms for which the inputs, assumptions and statistics should be clearly defined and agreed </div><div>Regards</div><div>Have a pleasant week- end </div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 1 Sep 2018, at 09:56, Theo Geurts <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>The Cisco Talos report is basically in line with my personal
experience (for years) as a ccTLD registrar who sells ccTLD's
where the registry does not publish personal data in the WHOIS. <br>
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Theo <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This study supports the
argument that WHOIS might not be an essential tool for
fighting spam and the world did not see a massive spam
apocalypse as it was said it will (it is "a" tool but not
essential and most probably replaceable even). Yes it is a
short time frame and might not be complete but it is at least
based on some data. If there are other studies that provide
data that can support the argument that WHOIS is an essential
tool for fighting spam (other than all the statements and
individual cases) and as a result of compliance with GDPR and
redacted personal data of domain name registrants there is an
increase in spam, then we can look into them. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I would also like to
note that domain name hijacking has decreased according to
some registrars as a result of redacted personal info in WHOIS
(as was said during our call a couple of weeks ago). Domain
name hijacking is an issue domain name registrants especially
in developing countries had to deal with for long with almost
no recourse nor remedy. They did not have the resources and
the knowledge of using UDRP or lodge transfer complaint to get
their domain names back.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Privacy in WHOIS might
even be good for cybersecurity and protecting trademarks. Why
don't we look at it this way too. Not implying that we should
not address all other issues that can be raised because of
redacted personal information from WHOIS, just saying WHOIS is
not that dark because of protection of privacy of domain name
registrants.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 11:59 AM Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Dear All,
<div>I am not sure that such study was done fir the whole
words or based on some limited area .I do not believe that
one could take any conclusion on that</div>
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<div>Kavouss<br>
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On 31 Aug 2018, at 17:12, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Relevant to the work of this
group is the following study from Recorded Future.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.recordedfuture.com/gdpr-spam-impact/?utm_content=76363539&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.recordedfuture.com/gdpr-spam-impact/?utm_content=76363539&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Entitled “90 Days of GDPR:
Minimal Impact on Spam and Domain Registration”</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Professor, School of Public
Policy</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Georgia Institute of Technology</p>
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