<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Dear
All, </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">What
we are looking for?</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Search
in various dictionaries to verify</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Whether
«identifying " and "contacting» are defined? Or </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Whether they could interchangeably
be used </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">To identify and to contact
are two different things</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">May you pls kindly advise<br>
Regards</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:13.5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);letter-spacing:0.25pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Kavouss </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">

</font></div><div><span><span><br></span></span></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 2:22 PM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72">
<div class="m_-6512415151134371709WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal">With that legitimate purpose confirmed, those supporting the removal of "identifying” (NCSG and registrars) would be asked to describe how including “identifying” unnecessarily reveals personal data that the word “contacting” does not. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">MM: Kurt, this should be obvious, but let’s not forget (as everyone repeatedly does) that we are talking about PURPOSES and so if a purpose of ICANN/Whois data
 collection is to “identify” registrants to anyone in the public then all kinds of data collection would be authorized.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">A brief look at definitions and synonyms for “identifying” indicates that it is a manner in which to establish contact - so without being conclusory, this might work out the same from a data perspective in either case. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">MM: What? I have been through 4 dictionary and web definitions and have not once seen the two equated. Your look was apparently too brief and too distorted. Identifying
 and contacting are not defined in the same way and never have been in the identity literature. Think of the occluded email address – it allows contact but does not identify.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>

_______________________________________________<br>
Gnso-epdp-team mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a></blockquote></div>