<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Everyone:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have schedule a call with Thomas and Farzaneh to gain a better understanding of their work product and more importantly, how we might use it in an efficient way to develop the list of data elements with a legal basis. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The call is at 16:00UTC, tomorrow, Friday. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you wish to join (and provide advice) please send an email to <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" class="">gnso-secs@icann.org</a> for an invitation. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Your thoughtful assistance will be welcome. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks and best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kurt</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 20, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Alex Deacon <<a href="mailto:alex@colevalleyconsulting.com" class="">alex@colevalleyconsulting.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Thomas, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm still wrapping my head around the updated Data Elements Matrix (thanks for your hard work on this!) and have a few clarifying questions mostly based on some thinking I've done on how I would fill this out. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) In the "Why (purpose)? ..." columns do we expect to list multiple purposes (if needed) for each data element? Or just one?</div><div class="">2) In the "For whom?" column is it safe to assume that this will be a combination (1 or more) of: Registrar, Registry, ICANN, 3rd party ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Alex</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:24 PM Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:epdp@gdpr.ninja" class="">epdp@gdpr.ninja</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Hi all,<div class="">Thanks Caitlin for sharing the matrix.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think I should add a few notes to avoid confusion:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- The matrix looks frightening, but you might appreciate its beauty (if any :-)) as it is a step by step approach to doing the tests we have to do to agree on the purposes and their legitimacy. Actually, the test pattern is similar for most of the tabs of the table. </div><div class=""><br class="">- The matrix needs to be further worked on. In particular, the test of Art 6 I f needs to be broken down in more detail to facilitate the assessment of legality. Also, the table can be made much prettier. What we sent to staff and Kurt and what you got now is just an attempt to illustrate how we think our task can be accomplished successfully. So it shall help slice an dice the issue.<br class=""><br class="">- We will be able to answer the chartering questions mentioned in the names of the tabs once we have gone through the table and populate the cells. We will potentially even have answered more questions from the charter after the exercise, e.g. the question about legal vs. natural persons.<br class=""><br class="">- There will be less and less cells to populate and we can potentially group cells (registrant data etc as a package) after a first analysis. <br class=""><br class="">We wil try to further work on this before we meet in L.A. and maybe we can have small teams work on individual questions. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All the best,</div><div class="">Thomas<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 20.09.2018 um 20:29 schrieb Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>>:</div><br class="m_-5140085814678395163Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="m_-5140085814678395163WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Dear All,</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Further to the ICANN support team’s action item to send Thomas and Farzaneh’s updated matrix, please find the matrix attached.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Additionally, Alex Deacon proposed an updated methodology in reference to analyzing the Overview of Purposes “x” matrix. Alex suggested including the registrar-drafted purposes language for the columns marked as a registrar purpose, and, as an action, for registries to propose draft purposes language for columns marked as registry purposes for §4.4. </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Accordingly, can the registry EPDP team members please use the attached document entitled “Copy Overview of Purposes – 19 Sept 2018” to propose draft language for registry purposes? Please use a different color to denote updated language so that the changes are easily visible. The deadline for providing the updated registry purposes to the list is <b class="">Monday, 24 September</b> so that the group can discuss §4.4 comprehensively during its F2F meeting.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Lastly, for those requesting the agenda and logistics, please find the agenda here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/rQarBQ" title="https://community.icann.org/x/rQarBQ" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/rQarBQ</a>. UTC times are now included. Please note the Leadership Team is in the process of updating the agenda pursuant to the feedback received today.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Thank you.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Best regards,</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Marika, Berry and Caitlin</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><span id="m_-5140085814678395163cid:3B80CDF2-0F91-4C20-9183-1C48765359FF@fritz.box" class=""><Data Elements Matrix - TR update[3].xlsx></span><span id="m_-5140085814678395163cid:D723E01D-B90B-436D-B517-8D4C459BB236@fritz.box" class=""><Copy of Overview of Purposes - 19 Sept 2018.xlsx></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none" class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important" class="">Gnso-epdp-team mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none" class=""><a href="mailto:Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank" class="">Gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none" class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-epdp-team</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
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