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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I can see the merit of the December meeting where we certainly still have a lot of work to finish and it would be good to either finish most of this work or
at least know the contentious parts of it as early as possible (before the holidays) however, I do realize that it could be inconvenient for some and for me both dates are doable. As for the location I am fine with whatever you agree on (I have existing visas
for all of the suggested locations), but Europe or Canada would certainly be closer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hadia <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Arasteh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 29, 2018 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Amr Elsadr<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Next face-to-face meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For me Istanbul or any other schengen countries are acceptable provided that the meeting g take place during the third week if Jan .2019 as I i formed you before I will arrive from BUSAN 13 Jan . 2345<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will be ready to travel any where in which there is no General Entry Ban but preferably Europe or Istanbul <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kavouss <o:p></o:p></p>
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On 29 Oct 2018, at 09:57, Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja">aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Even if you need a visa for Turkey, e-visas are an option, which makes visiting there at short notice far simpler.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Amr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:20 PM, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@GMAIL.COM">farzaneh.badii@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I (personally) support Istanbul. One of the rare countries that I do not need a visa to go to. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 1:32 PM Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja">aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also believe a F2F meeting in which we can take public comments in to account would be more favorable. It’s clear that we will not work out all the divergent views in time for the publication of the initial report, and that we will need
to solicit input on those views in preparation for our final stretch of work on the final report.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Having as much input as possible before meeting F2F seems to make sense to me, which seems to mean that a January meeting is the one in which we might be able to make more progress.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding location, a meeting in a Schengen state would probably be easier than one in North America for those who need to apply for visas. Visa processing times for a Schengen are shorter than those for the US or Canada, for some reason.
Speaking for myself, I need 37 days just for the visa processing time for a Canadian visa, and a few months for a visa to the US.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another potential option I believe we should consider is Istanbul, and ICANN has a regional hub there too.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 28, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Rosette, Kristina via Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope everyone had a safe and uneventful trip home.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I prefer a January meeting because it allows us to take into account public comment and avoids holiday/end-of-year conflicts. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the meeting is scheduled for December, may I suggest Toronto, which avoids the travel conflict that some members have? (Airfare is also significantly less expensive for those coming from North America and Asia.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Oct 26, 2018, at 2:50 AM, Kurt Pritz <<a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com" target="_blank">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you again for your time, effort and thought during the ICANN meeting. While others were visiting the various great sites that Barcelona has to offer, we were all not visiting the various great sites that Barcelona has to offer.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yesterday, I met with Nick Tomasso who heads the ICANN meetings team to develop some options for the next face-to-face meeting. At various times during the past week, many of you approached me with the following points:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Our results are significantly better in a face-to-face format<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
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We should strive to maintain the momentum we have, therefore<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
We should hold our next meeting as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With that in mind, Nick said he could support the following two options, a meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
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In the first or second week in December<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
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<p class="MsoNormal">[Meetings less than 90 days away require Göran’s approval, but Nick believes he can obtain this. Nick is checking on venues with which he is familiar in Brussels now, although the meeting location is not certain.]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am of two minds on this but do have an opinion and would appreciate your feedback over the next few days so that I can get back to Nick the first of next week. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1) The January meeting is more or less timed for us to take into account the first round of public comment.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2) Te December meeting allows us to keep working after the initial report is issued (or to wrap up the initial report in the worse case). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the December meeting is the better option for us. We are not going to stand down after the initial report is issued. There is a lot of work to be done. It is better, I think, to meet and consider unsettled issues, rather than meet
to discuss the effect of public comment. If we are serious about finishing on time, I don’t think we can stop. So despite the inconvenience (and it will be very inconvenient for me), I think we should meet sooner rather than later. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, this all depends on the ICANN meetings team pulling this off, which is no small feat, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let me know your thoughts, I will write to Nick on Tuesday. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kurt<o:p></o:p></p>
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