<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree with Ayden and James. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As the term „over-application“ is not a legal term, there is the risk that it is understood as conveying a (negative) value judgement. In our report, we should rather present diverging views in an unbiased fashion.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kind regards,</div><div class="">Thomas </div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 09.11.2018 um 17:11 schrieb James M. Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" class="">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Agree with Ayden, there is no such concept as “over-compliance” with the law. And I recommend replacing the specific (GDPR) with the generic (Data Protection law/requirements) wherever possible.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">J.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light";" class="">-------------<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light"; color: rgb(0, 176, 80);" class="">James Bladel<o:p class=""></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light";" class="">GoDaddy</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue Light";" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Gnso-epdp-team <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-epdp-team-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, November 9, 2018 at 10:09<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] For your review - revised language re. Geographic application<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I take objection to the first bullet point that says the "GDPR should not be over-applied." While the law may set forward minimum standards of behaviour, ethical duties and obligations do not always neatly correspond, and I believe it is our responsibility to make decisions that are ethical, and not only strictly legal. I appreciate Alan Greenberg wrote on our list several days ago to say we may have differing opinions on what is ethical and what is not, and I do not dispute that. Of course there is a degree of subjectivity here, though I would also say it isn't actually all that fuzzy. We should not need laws and regulations to guide our actions, but a moral compass that tells us we should not violate the rights of others just because we can get away with it. All domain name registrants should be entitled to privacy protections, not just those in jurisdictions with data protection regulations backed by fines.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Best wishes,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Ayden Férdeline<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Friday, 9 November 2018 16:34, Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">marika.konings@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class="">Dear All,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="">Please find attached for your review the proposed language in relation to geographic application for inclusion in the Initial Report, based on the input that has been received to date. Staff accepted the redlines of the previous version so the redlines on page 1-2 are the edits that have been made based on the discussions to date as well as edits suggested (in the subsequent pages you can find the original draft as well as input received). Please share any further comments you made have with the mailing list by Monday 12 November at the latest.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="">Caitlin, Berry and Marika<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Marika Konings</span></i></b><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span></i><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Email: <a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">marika.konings@icann.org</span></a> </span></i><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""> </span></i><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO</span></i><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">Find out more about the GNSO by taking our <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_gnso&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=5DXgId95wrCsHi--pxTiJD7bMB9r-T5ytCn7od3CF2Q&s=Cg5uQf0yAfw-qlFZ0WNBfsLmmtBNUiH0SuI6Vg-gXBQ&e=" style="color: purple; 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