<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Dear Ayden<div>Thanks</div><div>But this should be considered with a very specific and particular situation if some people that due to the current circumstances would be in problem</div><div>ICCAN sending enormous amount of money elsewhere which either could have been économiser or not spent we do the same in EPDP I do not get into the details </div><div>I merely ask Kurt to reconsider the travel support fir certain cases like me which are in serious problem without getting into the philosophical discussion on how public money should be spent .</div><div>I understand one if your members in civil society facing the same problem that I am facing </div><div>I respectfully request that this adhoc case be treated separately and allow people’s working since last June to continue to work on the last mile of the process and NOT bringing the saving issues here otherwise I will formally bring many issues to the process </div><div>Pls be kind and favourably comment and allow Kurt to resolve these very limited two. ASR’s tgat ask travel support in his Team</div><div>Regards</div><div>Have a safe journey</div><div>Kavouss <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 18 Jan 2019, at 23:17, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"> <div>Hi Kavouss,</div><div><br></div><div>My comment was not directed to you personally. I was simply noting that we were allocated a budget for travel support that I believe we have exhausted. Widening participation is an important objective but it should only happen in line with our budget. As a representative of civil society I am well aware of the challenges that can arise in levelling the playing field and ensuring voices without financial or state muscle are heard. Alas, I think ICANN’s current system of allocating travel support is broken, and does not recognise the fact that certain stakeholders who are funded by ICANN are actually in a position to self-fund their participation. I support the principle of there being travel funding, but as ICANN is a non-profit, there exist times when we need to question when the spending of public interest money is appropriate or proper. This is not a question for the EPDP team, but it is one which I think is important. </div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Ayden</div><div><br></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block">Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 20:47, Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" class="">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"> Dear Auden<div>My message was addressed to Kurt</div><div>I mentioned special circumstances for few people</div><div>This who can afford travelling on their own money are most welcome</div><div>But we need to understand the practical problem of few people that need to be assisted</div><div>We have been attending earlier meeting and it would not be fair that last meeting be unfounded</div><div>No doubt many of you do not need any travel support fir obvious reasons but why you objecting to my request and request of one other NCSG Member</div><div>Let us have such travel support and continue to work with each other </div><div>Tks</div><div>Kavouss </div><div><br><div><br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 18 Jan 2019, at 15:56, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Respectfully, the budget we were given was always limited to three face-to-face meetings (one of which must be alongside an ICANN public meeting), and we have likely exhausted our contingency on external legal advice, facilitation services, and GDPR training. So I do think it is understandable that there would not be travel funding available for Kobe.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Friday, January 18, 2019 3:52 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p>Dear Kurt<br></p><p>In reply to my earlier message regarding Travel Support for Kobe meeting of EPDP ,I received the following from secretariat<br></p><p>Quote<br></p><p><br></p><p><i>From Marika Koenig</i><br></p><p><i></i><br></p><p><i>Dear All,<u></u></i><br></p><p><u></u><i> <u></u></i><br></p><p><i>For your information, the following meetings have been requested for the EPDP Team for ICANN64:<u></u></i><br></p><p><u></u><i> <u></u></i><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li style="margin-left:0in"><i><b>Saturday, 09 March - </b>08:30-18:30 <b><u></u></b></i><br></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><i><b>Sunday, 10 March -</b> 17:00-18:30<b><u></u></b></i><br></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><i><b>Wed, 13 March -</b> 10:30 -12:00<b><u></u></b></i><br></li><li style="margin-left:0in"><i><b>Thursday, 14 March -</b> 08:30-10:15<b><u></u></b></i><br></li></ul><p><u></u><i> <u></u></i><br></p><p><i>It will be decided closer to the date whether all these sessions are needed, but at a minimum, the EPDP Team is expected to meet all day on Saturday 9 March. <u></u></i><br></p><p><u></u><i> <u></u></i><br></p><p><i>Note that no travel support is available for this meeting, but remote participation will be available. Similarly, alternates can be requested to step in for members not attending ICANN64.<u></u></i><br></p><p><u></u><i> <u></u></i><br></p><p><i>Best regards,<u></u></i><br></p><p><u></u><i> <u></u></i><br></p><p><i>Caitlin, Berry and Marika</i><br></p><p>Unquote<br></p><p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#000000"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto auto; background-origin: padding-box; background-clip: border-box; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: 13.5pt;"><span style="background-color:white"><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">This announcement is disappointing and frustrating as based on the past experience all these TEAM MEETINGS were provided with travel support.</span></span></span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#000000"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto auto; background-origin: padding-box; background-clip: border-box; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: 13.5pt;"><span style="background-color:white"><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">I do not understand nor convinced that why for almost the last f2f meeting there would be no travel support</span></span></span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#000000"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto auto; background-origin: padding-box; background-clip: border-box; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: 13.5pt;"><span style="background-color:white"><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">In view of the circumstances some of us encountering, may I request you to seriously consider the matter and provide travel support at least for those who are in special circumstances or those that they asked for that</span></span></span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#000000"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto auto; background-origin: padding-box; background-clip: border-box; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height: 13.5pt;"><span style="background-color:white"><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">I am awaiting your kind attention and favourable reply as soon as possible allowing us to make the travel arrangement in a smooth manner</span></span></span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#000000"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto auto; background-origin: padding-box; background-clip: border-box; margin: 0cm 0cm 6.75pt; line-height: 13.5pt;"><span style="background-color:white"><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Regards</span></span></span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#000000"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Kavouss </span></span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#000000"><span></span></span></span></span><br></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>